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    Walter & Group........

    Guy Manning makes a case for choice of casting style being responsible for painful arm conditions:-

    Gordy

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    This is an subject I have been considering a lot for the last few months.  It is my contention, based upon casual observation, that the majority of pain is related to casting style. I have to say I am not a doctor or physiologist so some of this may not hold up to scrutiny. I have though, tried to be accurate. If I am not I am open to correction. I guess you could say this is a first draft of an article for the Loop.

     

    Keep in mind that the majority of good casters I see here in California use the elbow forward style based upon what used to be called “west coast tournament style”. Think of Mel's casting style here, which he learned at GGACC during 3 years of tournament casting when he first got into the sport. The Rajeffs would also be classed as elbow forward casters (I am talking about normal casting and not distance, most of us change quite a bit for distance). Of the other good casters in the minority here, most use an elbow out style. There are a few who use a low elbow but not many. I know that this style is much more common in the South and South-East so my sampling isn’t the best.

     

    Of the people using the elbow forward style, I have met no one who had casting related pain that couldn’t be attributed to an non-casting related injury. The one time that I had the problem followed an injury caused by bumping the protrusion on the outside of my elbow (on the humerus) into a door jamb. It hurt much more than it should have for the light impact it had with the door. My guess is that I had also injured a tendon during the collision. 2 days later I spent 6 hours doing pickup and lay down casts with a 9 weight over Anchor River Steelies. A week later I reached down to pick up a coke can and didn’t have enough grasp strength to hold on to it.

     

    In my casting instructors workshops I have had 3 people in the last year or two who had casting related pain. Two in the elbow and one in the shoulder. The shoulder pain was due to a previous rotator cuff sports injury. The elbow pain in the other two was strictly casting related. One wore a forearm band and the other just toughed it out. The shoulder injury person would not get pain when using the elbow forward style. The elbow injury people when they could finally make the adjustment to elbow forward style also didn’t experience the pain from before.

     

    All of the muscle names below are hyperlinked to a page that will show the muscle as it relates to the bones.  If the hyperlinks don’t work go to the following page and click on the individual muscles along the left side to see the correct illustration: http://www.rad.washington.edu/academics/academic-sections/msk/muscle-atlas/upper-body

     

    This started me thinking that elbow forward was a better style if you wanted to avoid casting injuries and pain. I already believed it was the most efficient for conservation of physical energy, in addition to accuracy. I sat down with a friend who is a physical therapist and knows quite a bit about anatomy and physiology. I told him I had a theory and wanted to run it by him. Being a prospective CCI he understood my thoughts and pretty much confirmed what I suspected. When pulling a rod forward from an elbow forward position the main motion uses major muscle groups (big muscles in the arms and back:(Latissimus Dorsi , Deltoid , Pectoralis Major , Triceps Brachii and a small shoulder muscle the Teres Major (see Extension at: http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html#anchor109903  . When casting elbow to the side you are no longer using the “lats”  and larger muscles for the majority of the work, instead you are using the small muscles in the shoulder: Teres Minor , Infraspinatus and the Deltoid. (see lateral rotation at: http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html#anchor109903 ..

    So you can see that shoulder soreness is more likely when due to overtaxing the weaker, smaller muscle set involved in the elbow to the side style.

     

    In addition many who use an elbow to the side cast have a tendency to “push”, or not pull the rod through the stroke. This pushing motion uses extensor muscles of the arm which are usually not as strong as the contraction muscles Another result of using an elbow to the side cast is that it causes a tendon to cross a protrusion on the humerus. (I am trying to discover which tendon this is at the moment, maybe someone here can help). I believe this is where the casters cause their elbow problems. Repeated stressful travelling of the tendon over the bone is what causes the pain in the elbow. This problem would also show up in a low elbow style cast.

     

     

     

    Imagine having a bucket of bricks behind you and a rope attached from the bucket, through a pulley, and down to your casting hand. Using either the elbow forward position or the elbow to the side position, which is the stronger way to pull on the rope. The elbow to the side is a weaker position and could possibly lead to injury depending on how many bricks were in the bucket. It uses minor muscles creating rotation in the shoulder to do the work. The elbow forward position uses the major trunk and arm muscles to do the work, so it is considerably stronger and doesn’t overtax the small muscles in the shoulder.  Therefore I believe that the elbow forward style is not only more energy efficient but safer as a casting style and should be encourages over the other style for beginners. Intermediate casters who have developed a good elbow forward style usually have no problem adapting to the elbow to the side or low elbow style when needed.

     

     

     

    Guy Manning

    FFF Master Certified Casting Instructor

    Moderator FFFCCI Yahoo Group

    www.castflys.net

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    Comment:  Guy makes some good points, here.  I agree with his anatomical discussions.  I have, however, some additional thoughts about the relationship between casting arm pain and style.

    Some of you probably have made your own observatins on this subject.  If so, let's hear from you before I write.

    Gordy