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Gordy,
In applying the application as provided by Jim
Now what happens if we begin the stroke with the haul and then add the rod stroke? For Masters Candidates I suggest you go and try this on the casting field…. See what happens …! And figure out ….WHY?
If you begin your stroke with a haul, then continue the rod stroke there after, you are pulling the line directly to the rod tip position in the casting stroke.
If we do the haul early in the stroke the rod tip position is well back behind the caster,
With a vertical casting plane this will result in pulling the line in a downward direction or path in most cases when an upward back cast is made. With a horizontal casting plane this will result in pulling the line inward toward the caster who is making the cast based on the rod tip location.
Example of the cast in Vertical plane: The line was moving in a downward direction directly toward the ground just in front of the caster. With the remainder of the stroke being made after the haul the line tailed excessively at the beginning of the cast and it was almost to the point of the line (Fly Leg) hitting the ground with a wide bowing effect below a very small rod leg. Cast was doomed from the start not to make it to the target.
In my opinion it comes down to the position of the rod tip at the time of the haul that will affect the direction and momentum of the line for the cast.
So if we wait a little later in the stroke as you suggest Gordy if a tail is experienced, it will be further out and higher up in the forward cast on a more level plane with the rod leg based on where the rod tip was positioned in the stroke when the haul took place.
The line will gravitate to the rod tip at the time of the haul. That is why it is such a great advantage to have good rod loading in a straight line path to the target, with a well timed haul, to send the line in the direction needed. The rod tip has to be in an optimum position where the haul will best benefit the cast by sending the line in the direction of the intended target.
That is why Jim's statement is so important: "I like to make my haul later in the rotational phase of the stroke"!
Great exercise.
Gordy, also want to say I agree with Bruce on the arc statement. The tail still happens with smooth application of power. Just more exaggerated when added power is administered. Just My Observation.
All the best
Gary Davison
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[GH] Gary,
That is essentially what happened when I did it.
When I started with the haul in any casting plane, I introduced sufficient slack to make it difficult to load the rod. Couldn't make the distance and the leader and end of the fly line landed in a crumpled fashion.
When doing the haul immediately after starting the stroke, It worked out fine, unless I used a sharp spike of energy in which instance I got a tail.
You may be correct in agreeing with Bruce on the tail made with smooth application of power in the face of a diminished casting arc . I'd like to keep an open mind on this.
My questions on your observations :
1. Were you able to identify a concave rod tip path ?
2. If so, how do you think that occurred ?
3. If not, what do you think was the mechanism of forming the line wave resulting in the tail ?
Gordy
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[GH] From Ckling Ling,
Hi Gordy,
While working with the cci candidates couple of weeks ago, this was one of the experiment we tried out to get a tailing loop by finishing the haul before end of casting stroke.
Observations;
It is very difficult to do due to ingrained double haul habit of intermediate casters.
It is almost impossible to start haul slowly and then follow by casting stroke. Most will give one quick haul and initiate the casting anytime during the haul.
If this haul is coupled with a normal or slower than normal casting stroke, a tailing loop occurs.
However many who tried this would overpower the stroke and thus no tail, some over compensated for the haul finishing early by overpowering and a wider arc causing a wide loop.
These effects are exaggerated by slower action rod.
Conclusion; haul bends the rod tip, if bend is not maintained by rod hand compensating/maintaining further bend,a tail results.
Hope this is a valid observation.
Ling
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[GH] Ling,
I think it is valid.
When you came close to matching your haul to your casting stroke, you didn't get a tail.
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