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Walter & Group....
[GH] Jim Valle comments on his casting challenge :
Gordy and Group,
My thoughts on the Hauls and Tails issue:
First I will say that regardless of early or late in the stroke any shock which is sufficient to make the rod tip respond and then recover can cause a tail.
My point in the exercise is that you should never begin the stroke with the haul, always start your rod stroke first to get the system under tension then blend or match your haul smoothly into the stroke. (spike the power with either hand and you can cause a tail) I think Ckling Ling came the closest to my original intent in his statement;
Conclusion; haul bends the rod tip, if bend is not maintained by rod hand compensating/maintaining further bend,a tail results.
Because I have seen students do this when they are just learning to haul…..
If you start with a haul you will shock the rod tip, the haul is too much… too quick for the idle rod. It is a shock to the tip and the tip will respond to the haul by loading… however the stroke typically cannot maintain the same load factors therefore the rod unloads… even if just a bit … that is all it takes for the rod tip to go “Boink” …down.. up, and there it is.
I am glad to see that a little experimentation helped some discover some new aspects of the cast ….that is the best of all experience …when you discover or prove it to yourself, it really becomes yours. Just as your students must be allowed to discover for themselves before they can call it their own, Instructors should be out there on the leading edge experimenting and learning for themselves. Combine that with some real teaching hours and you become a true master. I encourage every master and masters candidate to find out “Why” for themselves don’t just accept …make it your own!
I would also add that all this haul, stroke, arc etc., are each variables in a complex formula that makes up every stroke… for example what happens if a sudden and/or early haul is applied to a vertical rod (like the typical backcast position for a new caster) or to a drifted or layback position of a more advanced caster) ??? … something to think about!
So as Lefty says “let your line hand be the accelerator”… We all know it works, but how can we add so much line speed without causing a tail?
Hope this helps,
Jim V
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[GH] Gary Davison answers my three questions on the tail made by casting with a narrowed casting arc :
My questions on your observations :
1. Were you able to identify a concave rod tip path ? Yes
2. If so, how do you think that occurred ? I base this on angles of the line direction and the stroke direction. If the line is moving down and the stroke is moving level to the target the Concave pattern is present at the rod tip at the time of the haul. Tip will dip at that point in the cast down by the implementation of the haul.
3. If not, what do you think was the mechanism of forming the line wave resulting in the tail ? I do believe that the line momentum exaggerated the extent of the tail. So the forming or creation of this angle of decent along with rod tip movement (dipping) in relation to a level casting stroke, initiated the line wave, which has to be considered a part of the equation.
Gordy
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