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    Walter & Group....

    On finding more information on Spey lines from Tony Loader  (I edited his text but not the link.):

    Tony.  
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    Hi Gordy,
     
    The link is entitled "Understanding Spey Line Design 2010" .
    To go direct to that page click here http://www.rioproducts.com/photos/file/Understanding%20Spey%20lines%202010.pdf
     
    Regards,
    Tony.
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    From Ally Gowans:
     

    Hi Gordy,

     

    I appreciated Lou?s comments re Spey lines. The questions I contributed were deliberately posed to explore experience and practical knowledge, the answers to many of them would not be found in books and those who answered them correctly demonstrated a clear knowledge of Spey fishing. Those who found the questions difficult have hopefully learned from the answers. Now go out with a rod and experiment to see if you agree with them. I love fishing books, especially old books, but there is a great danger of people studying to pass exams rather than learn the subject properly and there is no substitute for doing a task well in order to learn it. My advice is that next time a tricky question comes up go outside with your rod, try to replicate the situation, observe and solve and if the answer comes back different go outside again and look at it from another angle.

     

    Students ask all sorts of questions and you must be ready to respond. Often if a student asks me a ?what if? question I don?t tell them the answer instead I demonstrate the problem and ask them for the solution leading them along if need be, if they solve it, they remember it!

     

    Best wishes,

    Ally Gowans

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    Ally .....

    I understand.  That is why I didn't even try to come up with those questions ..... because I didn't have the years of hands-on two handed casting experience.

     Reminds me of a well known quote :  "The essence of learning is doing.  The essence of teaching is inspiration" - Mel Krieger.

    When I learn something new and then use that information while casting or fishing, it seems to solidify it in my mind.  If I fail to use it, I stand a good chance of forgetting it.

    Having said that, few have the luxury of owning a wardrobe of various Spey lines with which to practice.  I do recall spending time with Dennis Grant as he brought out several different Spey lines for us to try on our rods.  Great way to learn. 

     Probably the very best way is to do what Jim Green and Al Buhr did as they experimented by making up  their own lines for two handed casting.  As I understand it they did this by splicing various segments and altering lengths, "tweaking" to perfection, etc.  I'm sure that others have done this on your side of the pond as well.... certainly we know that this was done by Alexander Grant.  Rick Whorwood noted that the Swedish Spey casters were cutting and modifying their lines during his trip to Scadinavia.  When fishing the Skeena system back several years ago, I found some of the steelheaders doing that as well.

    Gordy

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    From Gary Carlson :
     
    Gordy,
    There is a very good online discussion forum at: http://speypages.com/speyclave/ which has information regarding most topics regarding two handed casting. This includes technique, equipment, tackle, flies etc. There is a good search function which allows finding information in the archives. If one can't find what they're looking, for a posted question will usually provide relevant answers. 
    Highly recommended.
    Cheers,
    Gary.... 
     
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    The Irish so have a way of getting to the heart of things.  This from Liam Duffy :-
     
    Hi Gordy,
                 Been reading all about spey lines from the masterstudy group.  Yer gettin' far tooo complicated for me. My beleife is that "it's a pity that the fish don't read all these books"
    Liam Duffy
    P.S. Place the fly where and how you wish, then you're casting with a plan.
     
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    Liam....
     
    Look at it this way:  If the fish did understand all the stuff which has been written, they'd outsmart us every time .... and we wouldn't catch any !
     
    Some of the Spey moves of today were things we did as youngsters....  just didn't give them any names.  Things like what is now called the "snake roll".  I can remember having my line downstream and swinging it up and around before casting it back out on the river.  Crude, with none of the present day refinements.  All done with a single hand rod.  Just "stuff" we did to catch fish.
     
    Seems that as time marches on, life gets more and more complicated.
     
    Caught my first fish when I was about 4 years old on a cane pole and a bent pin for a hook.   We've come a long way.  I suspect that many generations hence, "anglers" will be doing all their "fishing" using computerized virtual imaging equipment.  The Planet's real fish will be long gone.

    Gordy