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- Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:49:51 -0400
Walter & Group...
Liam Duffy sends an attachment from
Ireland. This is a dementia test to determine if we deserve to keep our
certifications. G.
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From Capt. Scott Swartz:
Gordy,
Your comment... "I'm working on some ways of teaching fly accuracy to moving targets for
salt water anglers who must become adept at judging distance in two directions
as they present to moving fish with intent to lead at a particular
distance."
I am sure this is not a new idea but it works well
for me. I have an inflatable bonefish that I tie a string to and can move
across the casters field. It is amazing how just a little imaginary
"fishing fever" can make a caster lose control. A caster who has
mastered the targets on my course will typically blow shots at an
imaginary bone fish. The other good thing in my opinion is that you must
present the fly in front of the fish rather that
trying to hit it like with a target.
Best,
Capt. Scott Swartz
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Scott,
A while back, we rigged a "bonefish" such as you did and moved it on a mono
string. We placed a patch of Velcro on its back and had the casters use a
Velcro fly. The idea was to hit the target so that the fly would stick to
the "fish".
Problem was, that this is NOT the way we fish.... last thing we want
to do is to have the fly land on the fish. It didn't teach the
skills needed to accurately lead moving fish. Your method does that.
One needs not only accuracy as to distance, but accuracy to place the fly the
proper distance in front of the travelling fish. In the end, the angler
also needs the judgement to adjust that distance with regard to the speed of the
fish as well when fishing salty flats. (Often the same with fish in deep
water, too.)
Gordy
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From Lefty Kreh :
Gordy--as you know one of the biggest mistakes made by fly fishermen
casting to moving fish is they "look at the fish." When I
taught rifle and shot-gunning years ago the shooter was
asked to look at the target bring the gun up and when it settled in properly
pull the trigger--it is the same when we taught shooting flying
targets with a BB gun. If you look at the target you actually see
the BB in flight-telling the student what he or she was doing right or
wrong. Humans tend to throw at something they look at. That is why your
suggestion about putting a small center mark on a can lid is right on. One
reason good casters can throw into small holes in the bank-side brush is they
look ONLY at the small hole--not that all that vegetation. Students who try to
cast through hula-hoops often do better when urged to look ONLY at the center of
the hoop--immediately most do better.
What the fly
fishing angler must do IS
LOOK AT THE
TARGET AREA IN FRONT OF SWIMMING FISH--and not a the fish. To teach this
I use a simple "two-headed wooden fish" that is easy to bring to a clinics.
It weighs less than a pound. It has a head on both ends--but not much
of a body-- and a screw eye attached to either end. Attach some
parachute cord to each screw eye and have two
people stand well apart--each with a parachute cord end. One
begins drawing the two-handed fish across the lawn while
the other feeds line. Of course, the speed of the draw
controls the swimming speed and the angler then tries to place his fly
correctly as in actual fishing.
Everyone seems to get a real kick out of the game.
I think the one thing we need most in out fly casting instructions is more fun
BUT NOT
COMPETITION!
Lefty
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Lefty.... I agree. Competition is one thing. Fishing is
another !
This is one reason I stopped fishing tournaments several years ago.
Having said that, however, I do think for some the stress of competition
can help hone basic skills. One example is Steve Rajeff. He's a
finely tuned and highly succsssful tournament "machine"..... yet he's rare
indeed as one of the very best fly fishermen I've ever had on my
skiff.
For some, competition fly casting is a turn-off. For others it's
their "thing". I respect that.
In the end, competition or no a can't agree more that we need more FUN
!!!!!!
Gordy
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COMMENT: Lefty, Jim Valle and I will by hosting a workshop on salt
water fly fishing at the Loveland conclave this summer.
We plan to get together in Maryland in early July to work out the
details.
You can bet we're going to work hard to make it fun.
Gordy
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From Jo Meder:
Hi Gordy,
I'm a CCI lurker from NZ but enjoy following the group and have
picked up a lot. I have a couple of target suggestions.
What I usually use is tennis balls cut in half with a big galvanised
nail through them to hold them in place. I used these to practice
accuracy for my CCI. I could leave them set up on the grassy area I
cast on, which is kind of a common area in the village I live in, so
they were all ready when I had a chance to go out and practice. The
nails are handy both for keeping them in place and for pinning the
end of the tape when laying it out for distance practice. It's no fun
when you get to 100' with the tape and the holding tab bit pulls out
of the ground!
I've seen a few people look at the half tennis balls and scratch
their heads, but thankfully only one person has pulled them up!
Chase Jablonski suggested using tennis balls as well, whole ones this
time. If you're casting in a park and don't want to look odd messing
about with stripy hula hoops and such you can just throw out the
tennis balls in random directions and cast away. Bound to cause a bit
less curiosity, although you would need to keep a weather eye out for
passing dogs :-).
Regards,
Jo Meder
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Jo...
Nice suggestions. I use an ice pick to anchor the end of my tape.
Gordy
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From Bob Rumpf :
Hi Gordy & Group,
I very much liked Gary Kell's 5 gallon
bucket lids for targets with a center spot for accuracy, it allows you to travel
light. Being one of the world's worse coffee hounds, I use 4 hula hoops with
gallon plastic coffee cans placed in the middle for a focal point. I place the
loops at 30, 40, 50 and 55 feet. I place the 6 coffee cans at 15, 25, 30, 35,
40, and 55 feet. With everything in place, I am set up exactly like the
examination course. There are coffee cans in the loops where the target
casts are made with the idea of actually hitting the cans when practicing. I
need only the cans to mark the distances for the 15, 25 and 35 foot mends.
The hoop at 50 foot serves as a roll-cast target. Due to not having a
suitable yard, I have to drive 8 miles to cast, which I do almost every day. All
the anglers who visit the Ball's Eddy access area on the W. Branch of the
Delaware are accustomed to seeing me out there, often with a coffee cup in one
hand while casting with the other. I even transport a mower the 8
miles to mow my own stretch of grass. I still think we are a strange lot and by
some of the looks I get, others apparently must feel the same way.
Regards,
Bob Rumpf
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Bob... OK until you have a
windy day. Then any light plastic stuff blows about.
Casting along a straight line to targets
placed on or about a tape or line yields better results that when I placed the
targets at the same distances but in different directions. Try that and
see if you find the same thing.
Gordy
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From Gary Eaton:
Gordy,
Targets - I have so many and use most of them.
I make a real effort to practice in wind. Cones can get blown over and
Frisbees (or paint bucket lids) can go airborne. I coach my daughter's
softball team and have in previous seasons. I find those chartreuse softballs
provide a good target that stands out against any background. They do not blow
around and they have enough depth to work when the lawn is past needing to be
mowed. Cones can be placed with a softball wedged into the base and resist wind
better. Cones can also be staked with the small wire hook used as
backpacker tent stakes.
Softballs may act as a center and a weight on Frisbees or 'flat'
cones. These flat cones have become favored over tall cones because they have a
hole in the center. They are about the size of a super doughnut (a little bigger
than a CD disc). They peak at the hole, like a volcano. The hole acts like a
tee for the softball or a tennis ball. I place this ball on
volcano in the center of a dollar store hoola-hoop to provide concentric
sight pictures like a rifle scope reticule (the fly line loop acts as the
vertical cross-hair).
Computer CD's can work, too (unsolicited free programs that arrive in the
mail). That is where a golf ball in the center seems to fit. These can be set on
a Frisbee or other flying disc to give three colors in about a foot. I find that
the edges blur after about 45 feet and the volcano & tennis ball or soft
ball work well.
For water targets I use a duck decoy anchoring system attached to foam
swimming kick boards. I have painted large arrows onto them and the words "WIND"
or "FLOW" to represent major considerations for Spey casting. Anchors attached
at the base of the arrow allows these to point the natural direction when in
current or wind. I lay the anchors on top of them when used on the grass because
they weigh so little that smallish wind moves them. Makes for fewer excuses
for placement of the stick when practicing Spey on land. They are easily placed
using a belly boat or by wading and can be collected with a rod, line, and
hook
When testing, I used the tall cones, anchored. I have a clipboard that is
longer, about 14". If the fly cannot be covered when the clip board is touching
the cone, it is not in range.
I have used bottles and cans from the trash, plant pots, small marking
flags used to layout underground structure, scraps of wood, tires, painted
targets on the sidewalk, bare spots on the lawn cut with a shovel or the result
of Round-Up spraying, chalk marks on pavement or chalk dust on grass. My kids
used to volunteer to be targets when they were little. That let me know they
were needing some attention and that I should reel-it-in and rest the casting
arm.
Gary Eaton, MCCI
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Gary.. The cones I bought have holes in the corners of
the bases so I can use the wire tent pegs you mentioned ..... or nails. On
some grassy areas, he nails are not long enough.
When going to a conclave or somewhere else to teach or test, I like to keep
things as light as possible especially for airline travel. That's when
I'll change to the light flat blaze orange field disks.
There are targets and "targets". The latter refers to the aiming of
back casts to things way behind the caster such as a cloud, tree top, edge of a
building, top of a post, etc., etc.
Back when I was constantly practicing for an exam, I'd spend time casting a
hookless fly at seaweed patches drifting past my skiff in a current.
I also practiced casting at critters for which I wasn't actually fishing
such as baby sharks, boxfish and mojarra on the flat. That was really good
for honing the "leading the fish" skills.
Amazing to me that I'd get many more strikes from barracuda on my hookless
fly than I did when I was actually fishing for them with a real one
!!! (I think they have learned).
Gordy
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From: Liam Duffy
[liamjduffy@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 6:45
AM
To: gordy hill
Subject: RE: Dementia
Test
Gordy,
You are well
in the lead, got several replies and you are the only one to get ANY
correct. Now you know why the saying "Mad Irishman" is so popular!
Best
Regards,
See you at the Conclave?
Liam Duffy.
P.S. how about
circulating it around the master study group to see if the rest of us have any
intelligence at all
From: hillshead@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: liamjduffy@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE:
Dementia Test
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:50:43 -0400
Liam....
Clearly I'm moderately demented. I only got two out of five correct
!
Gordy
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 04:56:31 -0400
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Subject: Dementia
Test
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Test
for Dementia
Below
are four (4 )
questions and a bonus question. You have to
answer them instantly. You can't take your
time,
answer all of them
immediately.
OK?
Let's
find
out just how clever you really
are....
Ready?
GO!!!(scroll
down)
First
Question:
You
are participating in a race. You overtake the
second person. What position are you
in?
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Answer:If
you answered that you are first, then you
are
absolutely
wrong! If you overtake the second person and you
take his place, you are
second!
Try not
to screw up next time.
Now answer the second
question,
but
don't
take
as much time as you took for the first question,
OK?
Second
Question:
If you
overtake the last person, then you are...?
(scroll
down)
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Answer:If
you answered that you are second to last, then you are
wrong again. Tell me, how can you overtake the
LAST Person?
You're
not very good at this, are
you?
Third
Question:
Very tricky
arithmetic! Note: This must be done in your head
only.
Do NOT use
paper and pencil or a
calculator.
Try it.
Take 1000and add 40to
it. Now add another 1000.
Now add 30.
Add
another 1000. Now add 20. Now add another
1000
Now
add 10. What is the total?
Scroll
down for answer.....
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Did
you get5000
?
The
correct answer is actually
4100.
If
you don't believe it, check it with a
calculator!
Today is definitely not your
day, is it?
Maybe you'll get the last
question right....
....Maybe.
Fourth
Question:
Mary's
father has five
daughters: 1. Nana, 2. Nene,
3. Nini,
4.
Nono. What is the name of the fifth
daughter?
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Did
you AnswerNunu?
NO!
Of course
it isn't.
Her
name is Mary.Read the
question again!
Okay,
now the bonus round:
Amute person
goes into a shop and wants to buy a toothbrush.
By
imitating
the action of brushing his teeth he
successfully
expresses
himself to the shopkeeper and! the purchase is
done.
size=5>
Next,
a blind man comes into the shop who wants to buy
a pair of
sunglasses;
how does HE indicate what he wants?
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He
just has to open his mouth and ask..
It's
really very simple.... Like
you!
PASS
THIS ON TO FRUSTRATE THE
SMART
PEOPLE IN YOUR
LIFE!
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