WIND / Distance practice / Arm pain from casting

QUESTION ON THE TABLE: CAN YOU SEND US SOME TIPS ON PRACTICE CASTING IN HIGH WINDS ???

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Tony Loader comes in with some good advice, belated because he'd had some computer problems :

Having made the 75 feet, it seems that I understand the mechanics and can apply them, albeit crudely. To perform at the MCCI level will require refinement. Careful study of Al Kyte's and Gary Moran's time honoured paper " GOING FOR DISTANCE..GOOD VS. ELITE CASTERS" would point me at the specifics but generally...

I'd first work on loop control as follows:

Establish how much line I can carry while false casting, without hauling i.e. ten or more false casts in sequence with well controlled symmetrical loops.

Adding line one foot at a time, practice until I can carry around 60 feet of flyline plus leader. i.e casting distance around 70 feet

Now add the haul and repeat the above until I can carry at least 70 feet of flyline with hauling.

Then I'd work on a standardised protocol for the distance cast.

I'd commence each practice attempt by laying out a standard length of line and leader e.g. 60 feet. I'd then try to standardise the false casting sequence by way of controlling the length of line shot (or not) into each forward or back cast.

My goal would be use a standard (minimum) number of false casts prior to a delivery cast utilising maximum carry and minimum line shoot, so as to demonstrate a high degree of control and provide optimal energy to straighten the leader.

The tape measure would never be far away.

Regards,

Tony.

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COMMENT: I added an attachment which is my outline of that article by Al Kyte and Gary Moran. It contains comments in text by Bruce Richards. Each of Bruce's comments follow *****. Gordy

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Gary Eaton comments on an article sent with a message by Jason Borger back in October. The link brings us to the article itself on a study of arm pain after casting :

On 10/28/08, Gordy Hill <masterstudygroup@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Gary & Group........

From Jason Borger :-

--Some may be interested in this study (done using FFFCCI members), which looks at casting "style" as well as other factors as related to casting pain (it was the study that kicked off the Fly Casting Institute).

http://www.wemjournal.org/wmsonline/?request=get-document&issn=1080-6032&volume=015&issue=04&page=0267

Hope that list members find it interesting and perhaps it may answer some of the questions posed in this thread.

JB

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Below, was my comment to the Group .... Gordy

This is a controlled clinical study of upper extrremity pain among a significant number of FFF Fly Casting Instructors.

Gordy

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Gary's conclusion re. my comment:

Gordy,

I disagree that this is a controlled study. It is a multi-factorial symptom survey and suffers from many limitations including no elimination of other sources of upper extremity injury. There is no randomization and no control group. The authors described many of the limitations in the paper. I believe it is as good as we currently have but comes short of the definition of controlled. One might formally describe it as a statistical analysis of a survey of caster's self-reporting history of arm pain.

Gary

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COMMENT: Gary is absolutely correct, from a scientific standpoint !

Gary..... Have you been thinking about that for the past 6 months ?

Gordy

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