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GORDY,
I USE THE ROLL CAST FOR CHANGE OF DIRECTION ON THE FLATS QUITE
FREQUENTLY AND TEACH IT IN MY SALTWATER FLYFISHING CLASS.
I USED IT DURING MY MASTER'S TEST.
YOU CAN EASILY CHANGE DIRECTION, EVEN 180 DEGREES, BY ROLL
CASTING
TO THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE FLY TARGET. SIMPLY PUT " A BACK
HANDED ROLL CAST " AND PRESENT THE FLY QUICKLY TO A TARGET.
CAPT. JOHN HAND
MCCI
REDFISH LANDING GUIDE SERVICE
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John.... I remember.
I was an examiner on your Master exam. You did that
expertly.
Gordy
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From Carl Zarelli :
Hi Gordy I am having a little trouble understanding Al's
description on the change of direction for the roll cast .
He comments that after he strips in the
line then he changes direction .......
Are the Spey casters thinking of change of
direction without stripping in ? Is this where the confusion is ? Not
sure ...
When discussing the forward Spey ( switch cast ) in the
Spey study group I think it was the consensus that it had a small
change of direction as I recall ( 22 to 25 degrees ) . I should
look that one up to verify .
Could you or Al clarify this one please
..
Thanks as always .
Carl Zarelli
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Carl, Here is Al's statement. My interpretation
follows it :-
Howdy Gordy and
Gang
I read a couple of
times that the Roll cast is to the effect just in the same
direction. I use a roll cast as a change of direction cast as well
as a reposition of the fly in the same area after stripping in the line.
The old right
shoulder goes left and the left goes right for moving the line/fly back up
stream rings true.
So that is a change
of direction cast.
ol Al
Allen R.
Crise
I
interpreted Al this way: He makes a roll cast. To
get ready to make the next one, he strips in enough line for a good roll
cast set-up with the fly at the "correct" distance from him (say one or
one and a half rod lengths out on the water.) He sets up his static
"back cast" D-loop. Now he sees a fish out at an angle from
him which requires a change of direction. He's casting over his
right shoulder, but the fish out 20 degrees or so to his left...... so he
makes that change of direction roll cast placing his fly about 20 degrees
from the line if its set up to his new target.
Al can
correct me if I have misinterpreted his statement.
I don't
see the stripping in of line important in making any distinction between
the roll cast and the Spey cast.
The
"switch cast" is called by some, the "forward Spey". Most interpret
this as a dynamic roll cast with a live line D- loop made with no
significant change of direction. Of course, one can make that small
change of direction and still call it a switch cast .... but not the great
change of direction from the dangle made with the other Spey
casts.
Gordy
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The Four Part Cast - a Teaching Concept
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From
Jim Valle:
Gordy & Group,
I actually use the 4 part
cast quite often with a couple changes from what has been
discussed.
I like it because
beginning students are convinced they can count to 4 and so it sounds
easy…(that’s the mindset I want the student to have) and they
remember it!
And it works so well for
me that I can, based on experience, defend it…
I teach it a bit
differently which includes the points Gordy mentions, I think the point is
important enough to go into a little more detail.
My
method
One-Two ……Pick up and
Backcast to a Stop & Pause … lift must be slow and smoothly transition
to backcast..
…One continuous combined motion
(If you were to allow a stop, or
momentary pause on the lift you would lose all tension in the system and
commit the momentum in a vertical direction… and that would definitely
create a problem for your student and a fault for you the instructor,
there is a fundamental (tension or slack) here and understanding the
difference is the key to becoming a Master)
Three …..
Forward Cast to a Stop & Pause
Four is Follow … follow
the line after it has rolled out and settles to the water
The count is One-Two
……….Three ……..Four
There is no question that
as Ally says it is all about the overall combination of how you present
the information including body language, and in my opinion that is what
being an instructor is all about! It is an Art based on sound fundamental
principles!
I would also agree that
the percentages could get you into the “dark forest” on an exam ….
If your individual teaching experience has
proven a fundamentally sound technique to you ….you should have the
conviction to use it. (Caution here …We are not talking about unproven
THEORIES or experimentation) …. Being a Master Is not about following it
is about Leading …
Hope that
helps
Jim V
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