SLIDE LOADING - QUIZ

Walter & Group...

From Al Crise .  My brief comments in his text in blue italics .....   Gordy :

Howdy group and DAVID LEGER

  I want to thank you Dave for that input. It does open my mind to a lot for function of the body that make sense.

   I have a question. When hauling I mean really hauling 'Ripping my Shorts' to Quote Lefty. I will end up with sore arm and Tennis elbow. Also my chest and back will be feeling the workout. So what do I do to achieve Balance. Besides hitting myself in the face a few hundred times.

 

I'd say you would be working much too hard.  This applies more stress to your muscles and tendons than your body can handle at its present state of atheletic readiness.  Happens to all atheletes who havn't worked out well enough before the "big game".... and even some who have. Many a tournament caster ..... or any athelete has sacrificed his/her musculoskeletal balance of wellness for the sake of winning !   Hauling with a sense of making it faster rather than harder may help.  As Lefty pointed out so well, using the body movements more as one ages can help, too.   G.

 

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  I was doing a CCI Candidate and CCI training this morning. I was working on the 'Slide load'. To bring in some sort of what is what.

 

Check out my questions and answers, below (in the quiz.)   G.

 

   The slide load brings the hands together at the head or infront of the body. The long drift and keeping the rod back bringing the line hand back to behind the body would be the other option. Now creeping is still here I am shortening my stroke If it is needed.

 

Key to this is your statement, "if it is needed."  Also, the way Bruce Richards looks at it after study with the CA is that if it is done strictly with translation and no rotation (rod arc) then it isn't really creep.   G.

 

 Taking the line hand back is a better mechanical way of making the cast. IMHO

  When teaching the haul I have my student, to be sure to 'move the line-hand away from the rod'. 'NOT the rod away from the line hand' or toward the line hand, without keeping the line tight by moving the line hand faster to keep it tight. This keeps the load on the rod and reduces the sagging slack seen between the line hand and stripper guide.

 

Agree.    G

 

Thanks Gordy for the GEM on CCI needs.   That was for you and your CCI Study Group, but eventually I'll post it on this forum.  G.

ol Al

 

Allen R. Crise
FFF-Master Casting Instructor

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  My own opinion is that it is best to not teach the SLIDE to students.  I think you will only confuse folks at a pre-CCI level, too.

Some may drift into using in on their own.  (No pun intended.)

After going over all the comments, I've come to the conclusion that Bruce Richards and others are correct when they say that slide "loading" is slight addition to casting style that some add as their own way of altering the cast.  Many may well add it without even knowing it.  Here are some questions I asked myself about slide loading followed by my "SHORT ANSWERS":-

1.) Can SL result in increased distance ?    I do not know. ( Bruce noted that he didn't see hard evidence that it really did. )

2.) Is SL a fault ?    When it doesn't result in deterioration of the cast, I don't think so. 

3.) Can SL become a fault ?     Yes, in the event that it degenerates into creep or is timed poorly.  If line is fed back in excess, this can introduce slack into the system (a violation of one of the essentials.)

3.) Can SL make casting easier for some ?    Perhaps. 

4.) Can SL be used to smooth out a cast ?    I think it can. 

5.) Can SL shorten stroke length and rod arc for the next cast ?    Probably just a bit, though that may not be important if the caster has brought the rod back far enough on the back cast to allow for more stroke length and greater rod arc than needed for the amount of line carried.

6.) Can SL result in increase of total rod load ?    I don't think so.

7)  Can SL distribute rod loading slightly over a specified time interval ?    I think it can.

8.)  Is that helpful in any way ?    I think so, for some casters in some situations.

9.) Should a well informed Master know about slide loading and be able to discuss it and answer his students' questions if the topic comes up ?      Yes.

10.) Should we be teaching SL to our advanced casting students ?     NO.

11. If one of our advanced students is found to be using it, should we criticize and eliminate it ?    NO.

12.) Is the term, "SLIDE LOADING" a misnomer ?    Maybe not, since it modifies loading.

13.)  Will it remain a controversial subject in perpetuity ?   I think so.

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Let's have some of you take this little quiz so we can see if we have consensus on any of the answers.  Please make your answers as short and to the point as you can .

Gordy