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- Subject: Essentials / Substance
- Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:22:24 -0500
Walter & Group...
Gordy, I must be in a coma. Who is Steve Hartman?
When I think of champion distance casters, Rick Hartman and Steve
Rajeff come to mind. Rick Hartman uses a lot of
translational movement, too.
Is this guy from across the pond?
Randy
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Randy .... My error. I
happen to have a friend named Steve Hartman and I must have had his name in my
brain.
Of course, I meant RICK HARTMAN. He's the
caster.
Thanks for pointing this
out.
Gordy
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From Rene Hesse:
Hello Gordy,
I'm glad Lewis questioned the SSSPP (my way of remembering Gammel's
essentials). That gave me more methods of remembering teachers and
acronyms---TAS...STAND...
When I give the students a hand out, I deviated from his order.
The written hand out I use is based on the
order in the cast;
S-get the SLACK out....
S-go in a STRAIGHT LINE....
S-SIZE of stoke....
P- POWER-smooth acceleration....
P-PAUSE
That being the basis of a class and study material I then give them a
'SOUND' to remember it by WHILE
THEY MAKE THE CAST. You can imagine (hard to write) starting out with
a soft 's' and increasing to a
louder 'S' and putting a hard "P" at the end.....ssSPP!
As you have said, people learn in different ways. The 'sound' of the cast
is just another way I use to
remember and teach the Essentials of a fly cast. I haven't changed
the text, just the order and gave it a
sound.
You brought up a great question about deviating from the essentials and the
thought of using a tailing loop
as a cast. I just about dropped my coffee at work when the
thought of using a tailing loop could be a
'good cast'. I grabbed my micro fly rod and went down the
hall in my office, and started shooting
tailing loops 'under' chairs and tables...............THIS IS FANTASTIC!
By tilting the rod to the side the loop can stay higher than the 'low
branch' and the fly can scoot under and
in to the bank-----with out a knot--WOW-it works!
Now if someone says that I tailed a loop, I can say, 'No that's a trick
cast i'm working on'.
You have educated and inspired me again Gordy.
Thank you,
Rene
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Rene...
I don't claim to have thought of this
myself. I tried it after seeing it done by Chico Fernandez, years
ago. I saw Lefty do it, too. Rod Harrison also showed it to me when
fishing in Australia.
I used the name, "Maloney Cast" only
after reading about it in Jason Borger's book, THE NATURE OF FLY CASTING, p.
76. (Michael Maloney is author of: POCKET GUIDE TO FLY CASTING.
He's known for his writings on rod balance.)
We can add some other ways to cast to advantage
by violating an "essential" or two. For example:
Last week, I had a situation where there were
dense weeds about two rod lengths from my skiff in the direction of tailing
fish. If I had stuck to the dictum of "slack must be kept to a minimum" by
making my back cast pickup with my rod tip close to the water (to avoid the
slack made by a high rod tip with the line hanging down in a "belly") I'd have
been picking up weeds. So, to avoid this problem, I made
the violation by hi-sticking at my pickup. Worked
OK.
I'm sure we could come up with many
others.
This in no way denegrates the concept of the
essentials being the substance of efficient fly casting. A wise man once
said, "The exceptions prove the rule."
Gordy
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From Walter Simberski :
Gordy,
I was beginning to think you were having email
problems again.
With respect to the Hartman Hop I think you mean
Rick Hartman rather than Steve Hartman.
Some thoughts on deviating from the
essentials:
Slack - when making an underpowered curve cast I
can underpower the cast by using less power than
needed
for the line to completely unroll. Another method I've found for underpowering
the cast
is to
release the line with my line hand just before I make my stop. Allowing slack
into the cast
at
this point robs the cast of any energy it would have received from the rod
unloading and this
can be
used to cast an underpowered curve. By using a "gentle stop" I can combine a
curving
rod
tip path with the early release/shoot to throw a very pronounced curve at short
distances.
Slack
also contributes to how the line piles in a
pile cast.
Power - agree with your reasoning about the use of
the word correct.
While
a change of power from one cast to the next will change the cast (e.g. an
underpowered
curve
cast vs an overpowered curve) the amount of power applied and the timing of the application
of
power is essential to achieving a desired
result.
Timing - We can apply similar reasoning as with
power to timing. If we think of timing as the pause
after the
stop and that the purpose of the pause is to allow the line to unroll
then it is independent of
how
fast we wave the rod (moving the rod faster means it takes less time for the same
amount of line to
unroll but
this is cadence, not timing). We could then say that we change the timing
of the
cast to achieve a snap because the line may
not be fully unrolled when we begin the snap.
On the other
hand if we look at timing as the
point of time at which the line is correctly positioned
to begin the
next phase of the cast (regardless of the
type of cast being performed) then it falls
under the
same category as power application. We could
use a shorter pause when performing
a snap and
we could use a longer pause when we want to change line trajectory but the
timing
must be
"correct" in order to accomplish the desired result.
Path - I think of this as, "line follows rod tip".
To make a straight line cast with tight loops use a nearly
straight path.
Deviating from slp results in a different loop shape and can be used to change
the
presentation (e.g.
straight line presentation vs curve).
Arc - This is a bit of a stretch but Steve Rajeff
uses overhang to control turnover (Nature of Fly Casting p 240 -
241). We
use the _expression_, "short cast, short
stroke - long cast, long stroke", or more correctly, "short cast,
narrow arc
- long cast, wide arc". The reasons for this
are to help maintain slp commensurate with the
amount of line being
carried and to assist with the smooth application of power but if our purpose is
to
change
turnover regardless of distance being cast then we could change the amount of
line being
carried
in order to change the amount of overhang and this would require us to change
our arc in
order to maintain slp. Again, there is a subtle difference between saying "short cast,
narrow arc"
and
"early turnover, narrow arc" but there is a
difference. I could apply this turnover principle to a
tuck
cast or preparing for a check haul for example.
Stop - I view adding stop as a sixth essential
unnecessary because the stop results by applying the
correct
amount of power at the correct time.
When the rod is in motion I stop it by applying
power in the
direction opposite its current motion. I feel that it's important for students
to understand
that the stop is
not an instantaneous event - it requires a smooth application of power just as
the
casting stroke
leading up to the stop does.
Cheers
Walter