Drifting-Nyphing techniques / slide loading

Walter & Group...

Walter Simberski comes in with a variation on a theme ... that of nymphing.  He compares a European technique with that of "high-sticking" :-

Gordy
>  
> On the subject of drifting I surprised nobody has mentioned
> Czech nymphing yet or any of the variations
> (Polish, European, French, Spanish etc.). Not very exciting as
> far as casting goes but a killer technique for
> increasing numbers of fish caught in rivers. I've found it to
> work very well on the Bow River during run
> off conditions when nobody else seems to be catching much. Also
> works well this time of year when
> the river is difficult to fish due to the amount of ice bergs
> floating down the river that make it impossible
> to get a nymph into the water or to achieve a natural drift otherwise.
>  
> I found this article online
> http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/czech/ that provides some
> basic information.
>  
> Basically you fish with leader only and depending on the
> particular style variation the leader can be any where
> from 4 feet to 30 feet in length.
>  
> This style has achieved a great deal of notoriety at the world
> fly fishing championships in recent years. As I say,
> it has very little to do with casting but when it comes to river
> fishing it is a technique that everyone should have
> in their arsenal.

Just wanted to note that this is not quite the same as high sticking or using the Leisenring lift. In

European nymphing the nymphs are pulled downstream slightly faster than the current.

In the French version of European nymphing the line is actually cast directly upstream and the rod

is raised slowly (just fast enough to pull the nymphs downstream faster than the current) into a roll

cast position and then immediately roll cast upstream before slack is allowed to collect.

 

Rigging is also important. In simple high sticking the number of nymphs being used and how they

are rigged is not important. In European nymphing there will usually be at least two nymphs

and there are various ways of rigging them depending on the presentation you are going for and

water conditions.

>  
> Cheers and best of the season!
>  
> Take care of that hand...
>  
> Walter

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Walter ....    Right you are.  These are variations on a general theme.  For example, the Leisenring lift can be considered a type of swing..... more vertical than lateral.

Then we have the Hugh Falkus "two way fishing" as a double swing to both ways across a river.  Many variations !

Gordy

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From Jim Laing. My comments in his text in bold italics :

Hi Gordy,

 

After reading Bruce's response to Slide Loading, I'm left with the impression that the technique may be useful for "elite" casters like Renee and Jay.  I'm thinking they have very little concern for slack line in their backcast as there is very little slack to begin with, so perhaps a longer stroke with extra drag is not always necessary for someone at that skill level.  Bruce uses drag to remove slack.  Is drag useful for anything other than slack removal or line straightening? 

 

Bruce Richards has long been of the opinion that "drag" (pure translation of the rod with no rotation or arc) does nothing more than help take out unwanted slack.  In our Group deliberations months ago, we learned that many knowlegable instructors disagree with that.  They feel that translation can be the start of rod load.  Bruce points out that this can't be much, because with pure translation, the rod tip moves only as fast as the hand ..... no where near as fast or with as much acceleration as the rod tip movement with rotation.        G.  

 

 

If possible, I would like to hear from Jay regarding the style he is using in Guy's video.

 

In that video, there is tension in the flyline even in the early stages of the forward stroke - the rod is loading as the loop unrolls. Trajectory appears to be controlled more by the path the hand takes, as apposed to that of the falling line in the BC.  This may be another advantage for an elite caster. 

 

Yes....  I look at that as "pre-load".  This is especially true if the caster has shot line on the back cast.     G.

 

Would I be correct in assuming any casting style should include a complete, uninterrupted stroke?  Regardless of the length of the casting stroke.

 

Never thought of it that way ......  Why would we want to make that an issue ?    G.

 

Jim

 

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