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    Walter & Group....

    Strong words on marked lines by Guy Manning:-

    Gordy,

     

    Lines may not be marked in ACA games. That is just outright cheating. You are expected to use your senses or other means of unmarked measurements to determine distances. Some people will strip line against parts of the body to determine the next target distances but that is considered kosher. Marking the line will get you disqualified.

     

    As for doing it during a test. I would not allow it. Nor do I know anyone who would. For the same reason as above. It is cheating. If someone wants to resort to that type of measurement they need to spend the time to become a better caster. Why should they get an advantage others don’t. They should have to test on the same level field that the rest of us have had to test on. I personally always wonder about the ethics of people who are always looking for the easy way around something.

     

    If someone shows up with a marked line and doesn’t have another to use, I am going to change the target distances and make them do it right. They should be at a level where they have the ability to hit a target. If they can’t, how do they catch trout on a dry? It’s a basic skill… and it demonstrates familiarity with the gear.

     

     

    Guy Manning

    FFF Master Certified Casting Instructor

    Moderator FFFCCI Yahoo Group

    www.castflys.net

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    Guy .....  Good points !    I must have missed the wording on marked lines when I reviewed the ACA rules.  (I've been guilty of worse, I assure you.)

    Gordy

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    When answering our little quizzes, it is best to place your answers in text after each question.  Makes it easier for the rest of the group to follow.

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    We've all heard about a thing called, CREEP.     Some questions: -

     

    1.) Consult as many fly casting texts as you can and come up with descriptions of, CREEP.

    WARNING !     This may result in your learning a lot of other facts as well !!!

    2.) Give us your description of CREEP.

    3.) Is CREEP desirable when casting ?

    4.) Undesirable ?

    5.) Why ?

    6.)  Would you ever purposely CREEP when casting ?  

    7.) If you answered YES to question 6.)  tell us when.

    8.) Is there ever a time when you would teach your student to creep ?

    9.) As you observe casters who are creeping, can you tell if they are using translation or rotation as they do this ?

    10.) Is there any relationship between CREEP and a TAILING LOOP ? 

    11.) If you answered YES to 10.), then give us  a description of the casting mechanics involved. 

    12.)  What is a, "Maloney Cast" ?

    Gordy

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    I chose Eric Cook's answers to the last quiz from among more than 50, for a specific reason :-

     
    1. Spey casting 
     
    An aerialized, live line, change of direction, modified roll cast. (That definition may look a little familiar to you)
     
    2. Single spey 
     
     A spey cast which the line is repositioned once prior to the forward cast. Used with the upstream arm and used when there is no wind or an upstream wind. Elements of a single spey cast;  Lift ,  D loop ,  Anchor ,  Forward cast.
     
    3. Double spey 
     
     A spey cast which the line is repositioned twice prior to the forward cast. Used with the downstream arm and used when there is no wind or a downstream wind. The elements of a double spey are the same as a single spey.
     
    4. River right 
     
    The right side of the river when looking downstream.
     
    5. River left 
     
    The left side of the river when looking downstream.
     
    6. Anchor/Grip 
     
    The fly line touching the water at the end of the back stroke. The tension from the anchor allows the D loop to form.
     
    7. D loop 
     
    The line hanging behind the rod before the forward cast. The D loop is what the rod loads against for the foward cast.
     
    8. What Spey cast would you choose while standing on the LEFT BANK with a DOWNSTREAM WIND ? 
     
    Double spey or snake roll with the left hand up.
     
    9. Under what circumstance would you place your D Loop on the windward side ? 
     
    Never
     
    10.  Under what circumstances would you consider placing your dominent hand below and your other hand above ? 
     
    When casting on the non-dominant hand side of your body.
     
    11.  What is a, "White Mouse" ? 
     
    The small, steady spray of water caused by the line tearing from the water as the D loop stroke is made.
     
     
    Eric
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    Eric is an MCCI candidate in hot pursuit of success on his exam.  His answers are BRIEF and TO THE POINT.  Great, "short answers".  I suspect he'll be capable of expanding with detail on each answer.  Of course, he will only do that if asked to do so by his examiners.
     
    Gordy
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