Distance fly line

Walter & Group..........

Thoughts on designing that distance line from Al Crise:

Howdy Gordy and Group

    I thought on this a while back. Just before the "Sharkskin" came out.

I would change the surface of the line. The thinking comes from a Gulf ball. The small dots (360) of them are there to keep the ball aloft. Rules require that not more than that be used. This texture is the same as the Alligator's skin gives it less resistance in the water and the surface roughness makes the gator like a stealth as the radar of the surface is distributed in array. This would be less notice by the Lateral line of the fish.

 Today we could do the same to the surface of the fly line. I feel that the loop might have a tendency to climb even more on the front edge of the loop.Micro dots would cause less drag on the guides and Air.

 I would change the head so that the weight would not be reached until the head was 45-50 foot in length. This would be a distance line. From this 50 foot point the rear taper would run to about 70 ft. This long head and rear taper would make keeping more line in the air much easier. With more line in the air the shooting or distance casting could be greatly increased.

The line would fill the reel more do to the longer head but not as much as the Heavy head. To give more room for the 120 ft. for line the running line could be reduced to .028 diameter or smaller. Still coated for less tangles. better shooting.

  The thought of cores changing in material is interesting. A soft core for the head. A harder stiffer core for the running line.

 Front taper would be made for the "fly used". Heavy short for bass bugs, longer taper for lighter trout flies. This could be a small loop to loop connection so the one line could do both or even have a sinking tip. This would be the last 6-8 feet of the line. This connection would have to be something new maybe a Chinese hand cuff type connection. To give a better transfer with less splash than a Loop to loop.

 

ol Al

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Al .... I didn't know that about golf balls !  I also didn't know if the textured fly line surface would actually give it less wind/air resistance. That would be an easy study to do ..... probably has been done. It does appear that those textured surfaces yield less friction between the fly line and the guides.

 

Gordy

 

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Bill Toone's design:

Gordy, below is my answer to your long distance fly line design question.

1.) Mass profile

a. Forward taper - compound front taper for smooth turnover but

enough power remaining at distance to turn over the leader and fly

b. "Belly" - very long belly like SA XXD line

c. Rear taper - short rear taper

d. Running line - thin diameter running line, minimum of 40' in

length. Don't want to shoot too soon into the backing with its

higher friction coefficient.

2.) Coating characteristics. - depends on the fishing application (i.e.

cold water, tropical salt water, etc.). Regardless coating needs to

include self lubricating design for low friction when shooting as well as

some degree of stiffness without becoming too stiff in cold water and cold

temperatures or too limp in warm water and warm temperatures.

3.) Core construction and material - just like coating characteristics it

depends on fishing applications. In all cases however it needs to keep

some degree of stiffness in the line for good energy transfer without

becoming too stiff in cold waters and temperatures or too limp in warm

waters or temperatures.

4.) Line stretch - minimal stretch to maintain energy retention and

transfer during long casts.

5.) Other considerations. - Be able to repeal dirt and other friction

creating substances which adhere to fly lines.

Regards,

Bill Toone

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Bill 

Good thoughts.  We'll see what Bruce Richards comes up with.

Gordy

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