Discussion level / rod overload

The impression that some of our more detailed technical discussion creates as portrayed by Guy is entirely understandable and appreciated.

In my opinion Gordy’s response is absolutely correct. The continuing need for us to explore all aspects of fly fishing and casting is essential, wouldn’t we “experts” feel uncomfortable if others can explain things that we might have known but didn’t? In 50 years of fly fishing I have seen many changes to tackle and techniques, knowledge fields expand ever broader and deeper and none of us will ever know it all. However as FFF instructors we should try to learn as much as possible and to develop our own abilities, MCI is not a comfortable bed on which to rest, it is a mere step on an extending ladder and the sky is the limit! The MCI test itself must evolve and perhaps expand to encompass changes to the needs of paying customers and ensure that they can with confidence choose and trust FFF instructors. Perhaps passing the tests are just where the real learning process begins. Next time you teach someone afterwards reflect on what you learnt during the lesson, its surprising!

I am delighted to be part of the group, It certainly give me plenty to think about.

Best wishes,

Ally Gowans

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From Lewis Hinks....

Gordy,

Thank you for this. As someone studying for their Masters, I was getting a bit intimidated by the level of discussion and while I was trying to keep up, I found some of the discussions much more advanced than my basic physics would allow me to understand. I know you told me in Margaree that this discussion group was much more advanced than what is required on the Masters test, but one still feels a bit overwhelmed with the detailed talk. That being said, I can easily see the value of these discussions to those who already have their Masters level and wish to go the next level of understanding. Now that Guy Manning has put the test into perspective, with regards to these discussions, I can better understand the nature of these discussions, and feel that they will be of even better use to me. Thank you for all you work in moderating this.

Bringing a question that is easier on the brain was my rather poor way of taming the discussions for those not at the very high level, yet.

All the best,

Lewis

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Lewis....

Your question level was just fine !

I, too, very much appreciate Guy's input. I've given thought to somehow indicating things that are at one level or another..... but I'm not sure how to do that as yet.

Gordy

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From Guy Manning on rod overload:

Ally Gowans writes: At what point is a fly rod overloaded?

I think you have to define the term overloaded before you have the conversation.

I have see a WF-9-F cast over 90 feet on a 7 1/2 foot 4 wt rod. The caster (Tim Rajeff) just made the correct adjustments to his stroke to accomplish the task. In one sense you could say the rod was overloaded because it had so much weight on it but at the same time you could say it wasn’t overloaded because the caster made it work.

A top notch caster is much less likely to overload a rod to the point of breaking than someone with bad techniques.

Guy Manning

FFF Master Certified Casting Instructor

Moderator FFFCCI Yahoo Group

www.castflys.net

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