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- Subject: Walter's comments re Velocity and Speed, etc.
- Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:30 -0400
Walter & Group :
Walter....
I'm learning a great deal from you engineers !
For one thing, I always thought in terms of velocity being a synonym for
speed.
Thanks,
Gordy
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Gordy - on your point 3 - Force = load = mass x
acceleration. Since the mass of the system remains
constant the acceleration is greates when the load
is greatest; however, the velocity is still increasing
as long as there is acceleration (velocity =
acceleration x time). Acceleration is positive up to the point
where there is no load on the road (i.e. RSP). The
velocity is therefore greatest at RSP. This is confirmed
by the fact that the loop forms when the line speed
exceeds the speed of the rod tip which is also at
RSP.
Now for the caveats. It took me quite a while to
understand Noel Perkins paper because he uses
the terms velocity and speed in their correct
physical terms, i.e. velocity is a vector quantity and
speed is not. At first reading I thought he was
confusing the two but he was extremely accurate
in their use and everything made great sense to me
once I realized that.
So why do I bring up the caveats? Because my first
paragraph is only true if the force is applied in a
translational fashion only. It isn't. We go to
great pains to maintain RSP of the rod tip which would
mean the force applied to the line is translational
in nature so that the system defined in paragraph
1 is maintained; however, at the point of loop
formation we want the rod tip to get out of the way
of the line (for reasons best described by Lefty).
This means that there is a bit of acceleration
applied towards the ground to get the rod tip to
move down. So the rod is not perfectly at RSP
at the instant the loop formation
begins.
Cheers
Walter