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    Walter & Group.....

     

    More brain twisting on SLP and the path taken by the hand.....from Laurence Baggett:-

     

    OK, but first, how can you have no arc when you have rod deflection and a constant (3’) hand plan even if the angle of the butt section doesn’t move? Define SLP. Is it the same as SLP of the rod tip? Butt section? I always thought when you were talking about SLP, you were referring to a constant vertical and horizontal plane of the object, to wit: hand, rod, or rod tip and they were not necessarily the same.  When the rod is deflected 6” to a height of 8’6”, is SLP of the rod tip intended to mean on a constant plane of 8”6”, or 9’. Logically, any deflection from one plane to another is not a SLP of the rod tip if the definition of rod tip SLP is a constant plane of height above the hand.  It seems to me the term “SLP of the rod tip” is the problem as the rod loads. Or is it intended to be the SLP of the loaded (deflected) rod tip? Since you can’t have a rod tip SLP (my definition) if you have maintained a constant hand plane 3’ above the ground, my answers would be:

    1. Get a life!
    2. Can’t you mathematical guys find a consistent definition for SLP, and is rod tip SLP possible in a casting stroke while maintaining a constant hand SLP?
    3. What should my hand position be in a casting stroke to throw an efficient loop?

    Tell me Karmac???? Regards

    Laurence

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    Laurence....

    Answers:

    1.  This IS the life !

    2.  Simple definition of SLP:  Straight line path of the rod tip in all planes.

    Rod tip SLP is possible with a casting stroke but without casting arc with SLP of the hand only if the rod is not loaded. (No bend).  As soon as you load that rod, then it is not possible to have SLP of the rod tip at the same time as you have SLP of the hand. To put it another way, to have SLP of the rod tip with a loaded (bent) rod, you have to move the hand up away from hand- SLP in proportion to the amount of bend in the rod.

    3.  Without any rod arc...only casting stroke, you can't throw an efficient  loop.  That's the point.

    4.  As Tim Rajeff pointed out, with stroke alone (no arc) you can make only very short inefficient casts.  With rod arc (no stroke) alone, you can cast farther...but not efficiently.  POINT IS THAT YOU NEED BOTH TO CAST EFFECTIVE DISTANCES EFFICIENTLY.

    5.  When you do this (as Joan Wulff pointed out), the casting hand does not move in a straight line path though the rod tip does achieve SLP....but rather in an elliptical path which will vary with the amount of bend in the rod.

    Gordy