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    Walter & Group....
     
     
     
    My answer to Walter's comments which appear below:-
     
     
    Walter...
     
    Good points.  Jim and I are getting serious about setting up something like that at the next Conclave.  We might even do it on the day before festivities begin, provided we have agreement with the CBOG exec. committee.
     
    We cannot avoid a certain amount of subjectivity to the exams....that's human nature.
     
    Exams years ago, ran the gammut.  In recent years they have been much better controlled and refined.
     
    Gordy
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Walter Simbirski [mailto:simbirsw@xxxxxxx]
    Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 2:21 AM
    To: Gordon Hill
    Subject: Re: MCI Exam

    Gordy - As I suggested at the conclave I think it would be an excellent idea to have a pre-examination work shop at the conclave(s). It would be a win-win. Candidates who want to find out where they
    are in their preparation would get the opportunity. In addition, current masters who want/need experience as examiners would get more opportunity to do so. As an added suggestion I would also say
    that anyone who attempted the test without taking advantage of a pre-examination opportunity, or took a pre-exam and were informed that weren't ready for the exam but tried it anyway, and wasn't
    close to passing shouldn't be allowed to retest for a year.
     
    Other than that the only improvements I can think of in the current situation would be to have a consistent view of the key words and a set of accepted methods for teaching beginners.
     
    As Jim stated in one of the earlier messages I don't believe anybody is going to be failed due to a gray area or even a number of gray areas. With two independent BoGs administering the test I don't
    see how anyone could be treated unfairly. Yes, there will be areas of strength and weakness for both the candidate and the examiners, but there is a minimum knowledge set that every candidate has
    to demonstrate and if they can't demonstrate it then they will not, and should not, pass.
     
    I know the test hasn't changed but I have heard more than one BoG say that the CCI test is harder to pass than when they took it. I don't have the experience to say if that is true or not but I would expect
    it may be true for some because the organization is growing and evolving and standards will be more consistently applied as time goes on. Certainly, from what I've seen, everyone who is currently on
    the BoG would have no problem passing either the CCI or MCI on a moments notice but I do think a regular refresher course for long standing CCIs and MCIs to make sure they stay current on terminology,
    tools, and instructing methods wouldn't hurt. Many professional organizations these days expect people holding certifications to either show that they have been actively keeping their knowledge set current or
    to recertify every 3-5 years.
     
    My 2 cents worth.
     
    Walter