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    • RE: GVR video with T

    Sheila...

    Thanks.  Now I understand.

    Still a good teaching tool.

                                                       Gordy




     

    From: "Sheila Hassan" <sheila@xxxxxxxxxx>
    Reply-To: <Sheila@xxxxxxxxxx>
    To: "'Gordon Hill'" <hillshead@xxxxxxx>
    Subject: GVR video with T
    Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:03:37 -0500

    HI Gordy,
     
    FYI.
    This is the same video. The swimming noodles were Styrofoam lengths about 1 inch diameter which he cut to form a T. (it is in my cellar).
    The only down side is that the T doesn't move out of the way after the cast...meaning you have to manually rotate the arm of the T in order to be able to allow the follow thought and the next cast to be made from a rod tip low position.
     
    sheila
     
     
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    Subject: Re: Whats in your Bag of Tricks for helping tip casters?

    Jim....

    This must be a different video from the George Roberts one on salt water fly casting. (????)

    Good idea.....particularly with the "noodle stop".

    Of course, the instructor can stand behind and become the, "stop", as well.

    Those moves, however, don't solve the problem of the student who is using all power snap and no loading move when the length of line carried demands one.

    Joan Wulff has pointed out that this is one mechanism which can result in a tailing loop ie., "Lack of a loading move when one is needed."  It does so, by producing a dip and return of  the path of the rod tip during the stroke.

                                                                            Gordy




     

    From: "jimpenrod" <t.maltese@xxxxxxxxx>
    To: "Gordon Hill" <hillshead@xxxxxxx>
    Subject: Re: Whats in your Bag of Tricks for helping tip casters?
    Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:08:26 -0500

    Hi Gordy,
      George Roberts has a neat idea in his video regarding the forward cast where he cuts the "swim noodles" and makes a T stand for the student to come to a stop.  Combine that with your idea of picking line off the water where one has to continuously accelerate to the stop point which is the noodle T.  Hopefully then the student will have the continuous acceleration combined with an abrupt stop which should make for a nice tight loop.  I would also recommend George Roberts video if he has not looked at it.
    Jim
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    Subject: RE: Whats in your Bag of Tricks for helping tip casters?

    Gary...

    YES !

    With casters who don't have a decent loading move, I've found that teaching them to make good back casts by picking up from the water repeatedly at different distances without making a surface commotion helps get the point across.  This information and muscle memory is then translated into the forward stroke.

    Some students get the point of the loading move by using Joan Wulff's, "form".........a series of PVC pipes placed on the ground before the student illustrating the arc of the loading move and that of the final power snap.

    The caster moves the rod in the horizontal plane over these forms which serve as delimiting points, easily seen.

    Her video / DVD depicts this.

    Hands-on technique can help a great deal, here, too.

    Lets see of some of the others have suggestions, too.                                                                               Gordy



     




     

    From: gladesflybum@xxxxxxxxxxxx
    To: hillshead@xxxxxxx ("Gordon Hill")
    Subject: Whats in your Bag of Tricks for helping tip casters?
    Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:41:17 -0500
    Gordy,

    I have a wonderful student: he studies, practices and is highly motivated. He has progressed rapidly (caught a bonefish on fly!). I started him with horizontal casting between parallel ropes to ingrain his "feel" for loop formation. While his loops are now decent, he has poor application of power and does not load the whole rod during his stroke, instead he repositions his rod and relies on an aggressive speed up and stop. Its beyond creep. His line, while having a OK loop , show a distinct "step" in the rod leg. Which suggests to me he does load the rod at first, but fails to continue to accelerate, then repostions and uses an obvious snap to finish the cast. Exectedly, he has difficulty achieving more than modest distance. To compound his problem, he was practicing with a particular 9wt that has an unusually stout butt.

    I've convinced him to practice with a much softer 6wt. During our last session I put a slow older rod in his hand when working on smoothing out his stroke, hoping to get the load futher down the rod, but the light has not gone off in his head. Demo's, explanation, and "going for a ride" have not done the trick. He gets the idea, but can't put it to practice. We are both getting frustrated.

    Do you, or any of the others, have any special techniques that can help me do a better job of explaining how to load the rod? Can you suggest other avenues to get him to feel and get the whole rod loading?

    Thanks in advance.

    Gary Meyer



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