RE: STOP?

Great !

Gordy

From: "Damon Newpher " <dnewpher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: <dnewpher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Gordon Hill" <hillshead@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: STOP?
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:21:08 -0500
Hi Gordy and Allen,

Yes, the slack line answer came yesterday in a trouble shooting lesson. The slack waves at the end of the top leg of the unfurling loop were caused by:
1. The pause on the back cast was a hair too short.

2. The hauling hand didn't drift towards the stripping guide enough, due to the pause being shortend, which in turn made the haul abrupt and short rather than long and quick.

At least these two pieces of the puzzle made the loop turn over smoothly and nice.

Thank you for all the great advice.

Best Fishes
Damon Newpher

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From: "Gordon Hill" <hillshead@xxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:46:38 -0500

><html><div style='background-color:'>ol Al...
>Takes some effort to crack your code, but you do make a couple of valid points.
> Gordy 
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>From: "Allen Crise" <flysoup@xxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: "" <flysoup@xxxxxxxxxx> To: hillshead@xxxxxxx Subject: STOP? Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:09:44 -0600 
><META content="Microsoft SafeHTML" name=Generator> Howdy Gordy Love all the reading I got when I returned from Mountain Home last night I just caught up. Causing the "Dog Pile" "Great cast but landed in a pile of S%^%*" The slack at the end of the cast. This has to happen at the end of the back cast or mirroring the back cast. Sometimes at the beginning of the forward cast. Starting just a might too soon on the forward cast will give some slack on the turn over of the end of the line.. OR Late in the cast is most often the better casters problem. Here I see the rod moved into the cast as drift, but too much or too fast. This will cause the rod leg to lose it's tension and cause the loop to fail. I have also watched a caster doing this with a mis-match leader. Like a
>furreled leader for a 8 wt on a 5 wt line. The line does not the the enegry to turn over the heavy leader STOPs I teach that the Stop is what makes Fly Casting and not spinning or bait casting. The stopping of the fly rod is the transfer of energy into the loop. Where the spinning rod is loaded and connected to the weight of the lure almost directly. This Stop can be a deacceleration instantly or over a peroid of time and DISTANCE Both time and distance have to be added in. Yes you can form a loop any time line is passing the tip of the rod. From this point [RSP] you are making the rod move slower than the line. You have sent it on it's way. You can only effect the Rod leg of the loop in that you can pull back or over feed (like the above dog pile) flip it to the side or up and down. "The bullet is out of the
>barrel" is the old way to say it. Oh yea Paul, Aussie cast upside down I understand. What with being on the unders side. and below the Equidor..... ol Al Allen Crise FFF Master Casting Instructor Hawk Ridge Tackle & Flycasting School 2508 A County Road 1011 Glen Rose, Tx. 76043 254-897-2045 
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