Harvey.....
Be careful when you read or write the word, "butt"....because some use the word to mean butt section of the rod, while others use it to mean a "fighting butt" at the bottom end of the rod, below the reel seat. (I've even found some tight firewalls which won't allow it into a computer message.)
To simplify even further:
1.) For straight line casting, a crisp stop is desirable for efficient transfer of energy to the fly line.
2.) Many other casts such as some curve casts and specialty casts don't require this crisp stop.
3.) For most distance competition straight line casting, a positive stop is necessary.
Thanks, Harvey, for bringing us back down to Earth.
Gordy
From: Hlhpc@xxxxxxx
To: hillshead@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: FW: Re: STOP?
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:28:57 EST
hi gordy- i,a mere CCI, have been reading the discourse between jeff and paul for the last few days, and i confess that the dialogue has gotten a bit esoteric and away from anything we, as instructors, might ever want to convey to our students( in this case, advanced students only).as mel krieger has stated many times, one of our goals as instructors is to be able to convey information to our students briefly and clearly, in plain simple language. why not just simplify what these 2 individuals are saying. we all know that the STOP is crucial for the transfer of energy to the line. whether the STOP is abrupt or "lazy" just goes to the amount of energy transferred to the line,regardless of backcast or forward cast.this then will translate in part to the length of the cast. as far as the rotation of the butt, it will always move in the opposite direction of the tip, but it will not rotate unless the caster is twisting their wrist, as in doing a curve cast,etc. hopefully this might help all to simplify their respective positions.harvey harris