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Walter & Group...
>From Gary Davison:
Gordy,
This may be off the subject of definitions, but I had this item below in my Gem file for the casting stroke and casting arc that you provide the Study Group on an e-mail back in 2011.
As you can see your words meant a lot to me.
I pulled the key sentences below in your reply to the group members and this is how it turned out.
I feel you have placed into words what most of us instructors have felt and experienced when making a casting stroke.
Many every day casters out there have not felt this sensation as described below. As instructors we strive to teach and promote these sensation described.
In my opinion the important and key words you have used below are very demonstrative and deserve attention.
Blending, complimentary, simultaneous, progressive, variable, symbiotic and telescopic relationship.
Exceptional description for this event.
Gordy's description of the casting stroke : Date 6/1/2011
"My own way of viewing casting stroke and casting arc is that they are complimentary and for the most part simultaneous rather than additive as one might imagine in a linear progression.
A symbiotic relationship in that each is necessary for the cast.
I see an almost telescopic relationship between the two as most casts start with largely translational movement which, as the cast progresses, blends with progressive rotation. That blend is a changing relationship as the cast progresses to the stop sequence and launch.
The relationship includes variable matches between casting stroke, casting arc, and rod bend designed to achieve the desired rod tip path and loop size."
All the best
Gary Davison
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[GH] Gary,
I still look at it that way.
Gordy
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From Jerry Puckett:
Gordy:
Hope you have had a successful time off.
Over the years I have been amused with this struggle with definitions and have concluded that a set of definitions that is pleasing and understandable to all concerned may be impossible.
It would be my suggestion that the Board of Governors entrust you with that task. If anyone has filtered this struggle it is you. Definitions that are simple and workable
may not address all the nuances of casting but would give potentials CCI's a starting point for teaching as well as a uniform jargon. Call it definitions for CCI's
Let the Master's level be the place for in depth discussions of casting definitions... may be time for a PH.D. certification---piled higher and deeper.
The discussions of casting terms over the years reminds me of the term some lawyers use in a divorce---"Irreconcilable Differences."
I would think this issue can be put to rest if the B.O.G. wished it so and agreed on a simple approach that eliminates stubbornness and insistence on ones own point of view.
I think you are up to that task and would suggest that the B.O.G. of Governors think in terms of consensus rather than the fractureness of past history. Hope I am not being to critical. As a pilot I tend to think in terms of K.I.S.S. I do believe if the B.O.G. wished it be done--teamwork approach--- it could be done, definitions always subject to review and improvement. It would be a much a need start and breath of fresh gulf air.
Just my one penny thoughts.
Now to work on my "Eat a sandwich stroke!"
Blue Waters and Vesper Winds Always,
Jerry Puckett
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[GH] Jerry,
One person's set of definitions is just that. Doesn't have the validity that a glossary crafted by the combined efforts of many can have. That is why we try to come up with definitions by committee, and then have them approved by the entire Casting Board of Governors.
We, on the Glossary Committee, all learned a great deal as the result of our deliberations over the years even though there was not true consensus and the terms were not approved by the Board.
The ones I use as I teach I prefer to call "descriptions" or "working definitions". They were born of the discussions we had along the way and tempered by some of the information from the Sexyloops Board. They are not perfect, but work for me. No way can I call them my own brainchild.
Paul Arden has correctly pointed out that the SL definitions have undergone revisions over time. I think any valid set of definitions should be sufficiently flexible to undergo change as we acquire knowledge. They probably should not be thought of as "written in stone on the mount".
Gordy
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