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    Walter & Group...

    [GH] Still waiting for discussion on casting with a strong wind from behind.  

    I'd like this to include several parameters, as though you were teaching this to a student :

    1.  Statement of problem.

    2.  Loops.

    3.  Line speed.

    4. Use of trajectory.

    6. Timing.

    7. Problems specific to roll casting.

    8. Solutions to roll casting problems with strong tail wind.

    9. Special casts,maneuvers and/or tricks.

    Gordy


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    [GH]  From Jim Valle :

    Gordy and Group
    Re Mulson Cast
     
    I really enjoy using  the Mulson Cast in the salt and I really think Greg’s Mangrove Mulson cast has lots of applications… very cool!  With a fixed length of line aerialized the quick anchor can really add some down close to the water accuracy and  Zip!
     
    The one thing that we aren’t discussing is shooting line. With a true quick anchor of the rod leg of the line the shoot is about over. My adaptation of the cast is that I make my normal cast and hauls , a good stop and shoot line… I then Slip line while I move my rod tip to the water to anchor the rod leg (this all happens pretty quickly, however you will develop a sense of timing on how long you want the shoot to fly i.e. when and how quickly you slip the rod tip to the line anchor) … with a little practice you can get this thing out there and just amaze yourself with the energy and Zip that transfers out to the leader and turns over the fly….  Especially rewarding when you can get your fly out where you want it and flip the bird to the wind!
     
    Hope that Helps,
    Jim V

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    [GH]  Jim,

    I'll give that a try.

    I've been casting a bit farther with the Mulson Wind Cast by first false casting until I'm carrying sufficient line to make the distance, then making the cast.  That way, I can get my anchor/"keel" close to me which minimizes the sideways displacement of the loop by a fierce wind from the side.

    Using a fixed length of line can help with distance accuracy, since you can first false cast to that length and judge distance to your target (or notch below the mangroves) prior to making the Mulson presentation.

    Of course, you can get more distance than I can with your line shoot, but the trade-off may prove to be not worth it when the side wind is strong.  Won't know 'til I try.

    Gordy

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    [GH]  From John Field,

    Hi Gordy,

    I think I see a similarity between the Mulson Cast and the TLT (Tecnica Lancio Totale Total= Total Casting Technique) developed in Italy by Roberto Pragliola for small stream trout presentation. The cast is aimed to touch the water so the energized loop kisses the surface, creating an anchor from which to unroll the line end and leader. They cast a stiff 8ft 3wt outfit with a 15-20ft leader and make extremely high speed tight loops with an abbreviated casting cycle. This technique was created to reduce the wind effects on accuracy, control slack line presentation and make obstacle casts. An Italian CI candidate I’m working with showed me how he creates following waves in the rod leg which will control leader lay-out and direction after the loop anchor touches. These waves are aerial mends. It is used to make presentations under overhanging obstacles, to make curves around boulders and to put slack in the leader for drag reduction. He assures me, if performed correctly, this cast doesn’t spook fish. I’m currently waiting for a TLT DVD to further examine this technique. 

    Happy angling,

    John Field

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    [GH]  John,

    I have read about it but never tried that "TLT" technique.

    In his book, Jason Borger briefly discusses Tecnica di Lancio Totale ...by Roberto Pragliola as he calls attention to the reel-crowding position of the grip and the use of continuous tension. *

    Let us know what you gain from the DVD.

    * Jason Borger's NATURE OF FLY CASTING, by Jason Borger, 2001, pp. 49, 145.


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