Multi-sided rods / Spey class

Hi Gordy,

I wanted to share with you the results of my spey class today, and get your take on how to improve it.

There was a writen, timed, 7 cast lesson plan. The students were to be 'intermediate to advanced' per my

class discription on the meetup site. (The students were not at that level)

Quick meet-greet, intro, start; dynamic roll, switch, single spey, belgin cast , 5-10 min on each with demo and explanation.

Here is the question...since they were bairly getting that part and we still had the snake, double spey, snap t to do,

which are the really 'cool' ones, should I have stopped and not introduced the last hour of the class?

My take is that they should see these and know they are avaliable to learn. Rather than let them get bored

with the first set of casts.

I chose to do the class, run the timing and see how it went. Every one was saying great things about how much

they learned, but at the same time, comments like, 'wow, I was blown away by all that', sticks in my mind as not a good thing.

Everyone really did have a good time and learned something. This was not a 'pay to play'class, but I don't know if I did the right thing in the long run. I value your opinion if you have a moment to comment.

Thanks you so much for all you do,

Rene

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My reply to Rene :

Rene....

Am I correct that you had the class learn the basic including the dynamic roll, switch cast, the Belgian cast and the single Spey .... then you introduced the double Spey, snake roll and Snap-T by demo after that ?

This would be even better, I think, if you had been in a position to schedule another session for them to actually learn the ones demo'd. You bit off quite a bit for them to chew on ... particularly if they were not advanced casters

I think I'd have first made certain they knew the basic roll cast first (you probably did that) THEN go to the dynamic roll. Perhaps the Belgian cast to have them learn the elliptical move, then the switch cast. Once they had the switch cast mastered (including anchor placement), I'd have then gone to the single Spey by adding change of direction.

Since the students still can't actually use what they have learned at this point on a river with a downstream wind, I'd have included the double Spey next.

Let me know if you would like to share these messages with the Group.

Reason ? We have some teachers of two handed casting who do this as a specialty with lots more experience than I have. We'll both learn more.

Best,

Gordy

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Rene's return message :

Gordy I have attached a copy of the class outline and stuck to it pretty well. The students stood at the edge of the water (big flood puddle).

I was facing them at about 40ft. Being left handed I asked them to pretend I was their reflection in the mirror...

Bob Hansel walked the line and worked with individuals as they practiced. At the end of the time and material being covered,

I worked with each member on what ever cast they wanted.

This was a single handed spey class, however Bob, Eric and I got out the two handers after class....those are a blast!

It would be fine with me if you want to share this situation with the group. I'm thick skinned and am really looking for

resolve on the issue of 'covering all the material' as compaired to 'changing the class adjenda' to meet the majority of the

group's needs.

Your sequence on the basic roll..dynamic...belgian, then switch is a change I'll make. That is a good sequence for the reasons you stated.

Thanks for taking the time to work through this with me.

Rene