Organizing & Archiving / Point P

We have discussed methods for organizing Master Study Group Info. The example which follows shows how I organized the recent Casting/Teaching Quiz:

1. I copied your original quiz into a word document with a helpful name, in this case ?Quiz ? Teaching Casting? and filed it in my ?Gordy?s Study Group? Folder.

2. I answered the quiz in that word document and e-mailed that document to you with my answers.

3. When you sent out the answers from other study group members I simply copied their answers in your e-mail and pasted them under the correct question number in my word document. I identify the answers author with their full name for one question then use just their initials for the rest of their answers.

4. When you send out comments on individual questions like Michael Phillips on Question #9 this morning, I is quick and easy to copy his comments and your reply to the document.

This system allows me to keep all the input on the topic in a single file rather than spread across a number of e-mails. Others in our groups may find this useful or have a better system.

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I don't know if any of our members are doing cross indexing ..... sounds like a good thing, but lots of work !

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Here is an interesting message from Kirk Eberhard on a Spey Casting topic; POINT P :-

Hi Group,

Awhile back we discussed "point P". For those who might have missed it. A simple definition, "The point the line leaves the water" Larry Aiuppy's adroit discussion below.

Kirk

-------Original Message-------

From: Larry and Jan Aiuppy

Date: 3/14/2009 3:00:41 PM

To: kirk eberhard

Subject: Re: Point P

Well, Simon certainly wouldn't be the first to contradict himself, even in the same book. Clearly, in how he uses it repeatedly in the book, he means the exact point where the belly of the line, whether during some aspect of the lift, line reposition or formation of the D-loop, actually leaves the water from that part gripped or anchored by the water. Too bad he doesn't say that specifically somewhere, but he clearly means that, as evidenced by the various mentions and illustrations throughout the book, as on Pages 23, 25, 41, 81, 82, 96 and 97, and in the glossary.

He even contradicts himself in his online glossary on his website (www.speyborn.com/glossary). "Point P - The term used for the exact spot where the D loop touches the water surface." or "Run back - A term used to decribe what happens as the rod tip lifts at the start of the cast. Point P runs away from the angler. If the rod pauses at the top of the lift, Point P "runs back." "

What is clear to me is that in every mention, the line is under some kind of tension from the rod tip to the water, with the rod tip lifted in the air, whether lifting the line, repositioning the line or forming the D-loop. The line is being pulled free of the water, or held free of the water, against the resistance of the anchor or line stick, and where the line leaves the water (a dynamic, changing point) is "Point P."

Larry

----- Original Message -----

From: kirk eberhard

To: Larry Aiuppy

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:59 PM

Subject: Point P

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Kirk:

On what Simon Gawesworth calls a "splash and go" anchor, wouldn't the ANCHOR and POINT P be one and the same? If not, then I'd assume it would be because of dragging the anchor .

Gordy