Roll Casts / "EOS" / Loop connections

Walter & Group...

For you MCCI candidates:

Dusty Sprague is chairman of the MCCI Testing Committee. Chuck Easterling heads the CCI Testing Committee.  I've just received messages from each reminding me that their commitees will be working to come up with clearly spelled out expectations for the various roll cast tasks on both exams.

Many of you will remember the discussions we had on this subject a few months ago, with emphasis on interpretations of the testing requirements and expectations when these casts were made on grass rather than water.

Gordy

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From Tom Scheer :-

Gordy

This is fun ( for the obsessive compulsive)!

We commonly find we must rely on mere words to communicate concepts, actions. emotions, ideas.et al.  As Paul Newman's character stated in Cool Hand Luke, "What we have here is a failure to communicate"

 

As a recently hatched CCI, I have and continue to depend heavily on what you, Bruce,and the others on your committee( as well as your predecessors ) to sort all of this out. But please, in your efforts, do not lose sight of the fact that perfection is indeed elusive. I know this must have reared its ugly head in your professional practice, and that needed to be sorted out as a means of maintaining sanity. We mere mortals will be just fine with the excellence that will occur in your results.

 

An example of what I took as gospel (and still find compelling ) is utilizing/defining(?) the word deliver as the fourth act in:                       The Four Parts of the Cast

                                1) Pick up                            50% in relative  importance of the steps

                                 2) Back cast                        25%

                                 3) Forward cast                    15%

                                 4) Deliver the cast                            10%

                                  where deliver is the lowering of the rod to allow a gentle arrival of the fly onto                                     the water surface, diametrically opposed to splatting the fly by not stopping                         on  part  #3                           

 

The question "are the delivery moves of the spey casts roll casts?" seems to have clouded the answerers(absent you) responses. All forward casts are forward casts. The delivery, which occurs after the stop on the forward cast, is as defined above.

 

Pursuing these  language"odds and ends" can only improve our efforts in our mission to promote  hearing vs. understanding

Many thanks Gordy for taking the helm

Tom

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Tom ....

Be careful before you commit anything to "gospel" level.  In your "4 part cast", for example, you separate 1.) pick up and 2.) back cast.  Many, including Joan Wulff take the position that they are one and the same.  Also, as soon as one assigns numbers and percentages to casting elements, he is open to the challenge of derivation.  This is especially true if this is done when answering questions on an MCCI exam .

I use the term "delivery cast" to mean the final forward cast used to present the fly.  I suppose one could use the term, "presentation cast" for that, too.

In line with Ally's comments, when teaching it's not just what we say or even how we say it. Body language adds to both.  In the end, however, it comes down to how it is received.

Gordy

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                                                 Snippet of wisdom from Dan McCrimmon

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One of my Spey students described a syndrome I had not heard of before. Says it has plagued him since childhood. He called it EOS… Early Onset Stupid.

 

I learn something new every day.

 

Dan

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                                                                       LOOP CONNECTIONS

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From Pat Blackwell :

Hi Gordy,
 
The needles that were made for hollow braid mono and dacron are still available from Cortland (at least they are still on the web site). They retail for $2 each and come in 2 sizes, the small one is good for #20 braided mono and will work on #35, the large one is for #50 braided mono and can be made to work on #35.
 
Any Cortland dealer should be able to order them for you.
 
 
Regards
 
Pat Blackwell

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Pat,

Thanks for that info.  I found that Gudebrod also offers one in a loop kit.

I took Lefty's advice and made one from stainless steel monofilament leader wire.  Best to use # 2 or # 3 wire.  Also, to place a bend or loop or attach something to one end so it doesn't accidentally slip through.  By using this wire method, you can make the splice much longer when and if desired.

Gordy

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