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    Walter & Group...

    Looks as though these ideas have International tentacles.  This from Tony Loader of Australia :

    Hi Gordy,
     
    Re Troy's question below:
     
    Some ten years or so ago, I was a participant in a group being taught the basic cast by tournament caster, John Waters of Victoria, Australia.
    The thumbnail was a major indicator of "goodness" in his teaching.
     
    I have attempted to contact John to ask him if I might share extracts from his (copyrighted) course notes, for Troy's interest, but so far without success.
     
    Regards,
    Tony.

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    From Ally Gowans of Scotland :-

    Hi Gordy,

     

    Since I was working on similar stuff here is a sketch that may help to illustrate the setup that Lefty describes.

     

    Best wishes,

    Ally Gowans

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    I've place Ally's diagram in the attachment.   An addition to this diagram might include the caster who twists the wrist.  This would depict the cast curving behind the line on the ground.      Gordy

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    From Jerry Puckett.  My comments in his text in bold blue italics       G.  :-

    Gordy and Troy:
     
    Thumb on top I would say is the most used grip but for others such as myself with thumb weakness, I use the three point grip as my default grip, shown to me by Jason Borger.  Others may use finger on top or a grip unique to them. 
     
    All well recognised grip styles    G. 
     
    If we use the pointing of the thumb, are we teaching an effective use of a particular style of grip?
     
    I think we could look at it that way, Jerry   G.
     
    When I practice, particularly on the back cast, I concentrate on pointing the rod tip to the target which at the same time, I think,  serves as an indicator on effective use of my wrist.  I do love the blaze orange and have that in my bag of tricks for those who cast with thumb on top.
     
    So my question is this: when teaching folk with a grip other than thumb on top how do you teach the same thing as you would with the blaze orange on the thumbnail?
     
    I will practice this week with the orange sticker placed on bottom of the V between thumb and index finger to see if it serves the same purpose.   Just being inquisitive.
     
    I never thought of that !  May just work.  Placing the orange marker on the index finger nail might work with folks who cast with that finger "on top of the cork".     G.
     
    Thanks,
     
    Jerry Puckett
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    Variation on a theme by Al Crise .... from Texas ( Which is now part of the U.S.A, according to some ) :-
     
    Howdy Gordy & Gang
     I will offer this on straight lines
    When I mow my Casting Venue I mow in Straight lines that will be the Casting Lanes. This way the students can see if the line is straighting out behind just by letting it drop. The mower make great wheel marks and enough of them so whether side arm or over head there is enough makes to show the effect of a swing / obtuse in the back cast or a acute angle. This has helped many of my students to see just what happened.
    Of course here in Texas we have room to make lots of casting lanes.
    ol Al
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    Al ...      "Lefty's Line" can be any straight line on the ground.  Yours is a clever one.
     
    Bob Andreae and I have practiced over the double lines at the side of a local tennis court.
     
    I wrote an article on the technique of teaching the straight line path of the rod tip (which is a meaningless string of words to the early student caster) for the LOOP a couple of years ago.
     
    We use this line and then doubled it, making parallel lines of ropes stretched out on the ground.
     
    We first layed them out 6' apart and taught the student to make loops of that size keeping them between the lines for both forward and back casts.
     
    Then we progressively narrowed the space between the ropes until the student could keep ever smaller loops between ropes only 2' apart.  We increased the timing so the student could do it without actually touching the ground at each loop width interval.
     
    Once repeatedly achieving 2' loops between the ropes, we went "airborne" until the student could make effective small loops with a casting plane at 45 degrees from the ground and greater.
     
    To accomplish this, it was necessary for the wrist to avoid twisting, and the thumbnail (for the "thumb-on-top'ers") to be directed to and from the targets at either end of the course.
     
    Worked well.
     
    Gordy
     
     

     

     

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