Walter & Group....
I will be away from my computer until mid March. We'll get back to work then.
Gordy
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From David Lambert :-
Gordy -- this is the Davy Knot, created by Welsh-born Davy Wotton. Davy
is one of the most interesting and interested fly fishers I know. He's
partners occasionally with Dave Whitlock on the White and Buffalo and is
a tying dynamo, collecting specimens, tanning his own skins, etc.
I've used this knot for a few years; never had problems with it. Davy
recommends that you make an extra back turn for larger fish. Nothing
bigger than 10 lbs. But, I'd be interested to know if others use it
successfully for bigger fish. It's the simplest knot to tie, even blind.
David
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COMMENT: Check out david's attachment. I have used this but didn't know its name. It's a quick and easy tie and does not leave a bulky connection at the hook eye. I've never tested its strength and have not tried it for large fish or salty critters.
Gordy
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Return message from Troy Miller :
I’ll have to search Google, since each of these knots were shown to me by a friend/mentor and the only reference I have for each is in my brain. The Pitzen knot is kinda like an “inside-out” clinch knot, and the San Diego is kinda like an “inside-out” improved clinch. John Wilson taught me the Davy 4 or 5 years ago while we were midging on the Norfork. I’ve used it enthusiastically ever since. I believe that it was either invented by or advocated by Davy Wotton.
Another knot that I forgot to mention is the turle knot which I use on traditional dry flies (duns) when the support of the head of the fly is important toward presentation above the surface film. Compara-duns, thorax-style dries, CDC dries, spinners, or emergers fished in the film, I now use the Davy knot on.
I’ll try to forward a link if I can find one.
Regards -- TAM
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Troy ...
Thanks ! I'll be interested to see those. Once I know them, I'll tie some up and test them for knot strength in comparison to the well known, "improved clinch" knot ..... then report the findings.
Years ago, we figured out a simple one we called the, "Key West knot" for a quick connection between the bite (shock) tippet and the class tippet.
You form a loose overhand knot in the shock tippet, pass the class tippet through it and tighten the overhand knot down. Then you make a 6X uni-knot around the part of the shock tippet and tighten it almost all the way. That uni is slid down to contact the overhand knot and the whole thing finally tightened down and trimmed.
On testing, we found it was not quite as strong as the Hufnagle knot or a 3X surgeons knot. One advantage over the Hufnagle knot is that it is much easier to tie on site in howling wind and sea conditions. An advantage over the surgeons knot was that you could tie it with the fly already attached to the shock tippet. Also, it is a much better knot when you are using a heavy shock tippet where the surgeons knot is impractical.
Gordy
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From Ed Chamberlain:-
Hi Gordy,
I agree with the Davy knot, especially fishing in small streams and light
tippet. Had a nice fish come unbuttoned this Oct with 2X tippet using Davy.
Don't know if it was my tie or knot characteristic. www.
pechetruite.com/Noeuds/Davy-knot.htm. Will give you Davy and I think Pitzen
is there too: credited to Edgar Pitzenbauer of Germany. Regards, Ed
Ed
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Thanks, Ed. Always interesting to me to know who came up with these knots, casts, tricks, etc.
I did access the pechetruite.com site. Very clear depiction of this knot. Several other knots appear on this site as well.
(Of course, the word, "pechetruite" translates to, "trout fish" from French.)
Gordy
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