Walter & Group.........
Rick Whorwood (THCI) replies with one answer to Liam Duffy's question as to a
line which can be used with a Spey rod for Spey casting and, also, for straight
line single handed casting :-
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Gordy,
A guide
up in Michigan turned me onto the Winston B2x 11' #7 last fall. We chucked
lead all week and dredged out the deep holes for steelhead with a level
shooting line/ "chuck & duck" rig. I called Twin
Bridges after returning and talked with one of the factory guys that use
this same rod with a long belly #8 line for spey casting. I believe he
mentioned he uses the SA XXD or ED.
Will
have to line up my 14' 8/9 with a #12 tarpon line and give that a shot!
Jim
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From Pat
Blackwell :-
Hi Gordy,
We know neither
the recommended line weight of the single handed rod nor the double handed
rod only the weight of the line the student wishes to purchase. If both rods are
rated for an 8wt. line, a DT8F in the 100' range or a shooting head of
approximately 360 grains @ 40' (Two-Handed Fly Casting, Al Buhr page 60). I've
fished both rods with a DT8, finding that line weight light when
casting short, and just ok on longer cast. From my own limited experience I
would recommend a shooting head for a student that wanted to purchase
only one line.
Regards,
Pat
Blackwell
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From
Walter Simberski :-
Is the
single handed rod going to be used primarily for spey casting? Is there a
line weight rating for the two handed rod? Does the caster prefer Skagit,
Scandinavian or classical spey casting style? Do they want a sinking or
floating line? How long is the dh rod?
Depending on the answers you
could be looking at a shooting taper, short belly to long belly wf, a dt, or a
multitip line. Recommendations for front and rear tapers could be impacted
as well.
Knowing the intended environment could make life a bit easier.
If fishing the Bow River for example could try 7 weight XXD floating line.
This NOT an absolute - just a possible starting point and I am guessing that the
dh rod is a 11-12 foot long 6
weight.
Cheers
Walter
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From
David Olsen:-
Gordy ,
Assuming that both are 8 wt. rods , a longer bellied weight forward such as
an Expert Distance from SA or maybe a Wulff Triangle Taper Steelhead line would
do fairly well on both , particularly if the person is a fairly aggressive
speycaster . Another option would be a short spey line like a Windcutter 6/7/8 ,
which is a bit heavy for the single hander , but not by a bunch .
Thanks ,
David
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Walter & Pat....
Liam didn't specify the rod designations or lengths. I made
the assumption that each would be rated as an, "8" wt. Of course, an
8 wt. line for single handed straight line casting would be different than an 8
wt. Spey line.
My thought (and I have not tried it) would be to use a short head
Spey line for both. In order to get all that onto a reel likely to be used
for single handed straight line casting, however, one might have to cut off the
last 20' of the running line.
Another choice to consider would be David Olsen's suggestion of
the SA Expert Distance line.
The shooting head might work, too, for some
circumstances.
I DID try his second suggestion ( the Wulff Triangle
Taper..... not the Steelhead line, but the Bermuda Triangle one) size 8 on both
my 8 wt. single handed rod and my 14' traditional 7 - 8 wt. Spey rod and was
able to perform adequately with each.
Many possible choices. Trick is come up with the one which
works best.
Since I'm not a THCI nor Spey experienced caster, I'll defer to
those who are.
Gordy
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LET'S HAVE LIAM CLOSE THE DISCUSSION WITH HIS ANSWER
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Gordy
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