Walter & Group.........
Dusty returned and placed his new answers to Molly's questions on the MCCI test in text.
His answers are prefaced by, +++++++++++.
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From: dsprague01@xxxxxxxxxxx
Gordy and Molly,Just returned yeserday from a two week trip to Alaska, so trying this morning to catch up on emails....thus my tardy reply. Let me wade through all the emails from the committee before I comment to Molly's thoughts.Dusty-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Gordon Hill" <hillshead@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Molly....
>
> My answers in CAPS INSERTED IN YOUR TEXT:-
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mollysemenik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:mollysemenik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 3:14 PM
> To: masterstudy@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: A few questions
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> Gordy,
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> I have been working with a master candidate and a few questions came up.
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> When doing the 50' roll cast on the lawn and the yarn fly is attached to a
> clip
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> board it seems the caster casts beyond the clip board with the fly line
> leaving
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> the yarn fly behind the extended loop. This seem to be farther than 50 ft. > How
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> would you handle this situation?
>
> ++++ ++++++ On grass for this task I offer the following option to the candidate if he/she feels the need for some help to anchor the line/leader. I have the candidate make a straight-line overhead cast placing the yarn fly at the fifty foot mark (measured from the caster). This gets the right length of line and leader out. The candidate then draws the rod back into the roll cast stop position slowly forming a 'D' loop....rod should be fully stopped at this point. The fly will have been pulled back toward the candidate during this process. I then stand on the fly to anchor it. The candidate executes the roll cast......I remove my foot from the fly as the loop rolls past me. If good roll casting technique was used, and I remove my foot from the fly at the right time, the line and leader straightens at the fifty foot distance.Currently, some examiners simply anchor the fly witht the clipboard as you have done. Since the exam is on grass the examiner forgoes critique of the leader straightening completely forgiving that portion of the task and just watching loop formation to ensure roll casting technique was adequate.
In the revised masters performance test, not yet approved, we have inserted a statement on roll casting that states "Allowances will be made if casting on grass -- candidates may opt to cast with or without anchoring the leader or use a grass leader".
> MY OWN TAKE ON THIS IS THAT THE FLY MUST LAND WITH THE LEADER REASONABLY
> STRAIGHT... NOT FOLDED BACK.
>
> ALSO, THE FLY DISTANCE SHOULD BE MEASURED FROM THE CASTER.
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> LASTLY, ON THE MCCI EXAM, THE ROLL CAST SHOULD START WITH THE CANDIDATE
> HOLDING IT IN HAND.
>
> OUR MCCI TEST COMMITTEE, CHAIRED BY DUSTY SPRAGUE, IS WORKING ON A REVISION
> OF THESE TASKS. THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE DISCUSSED AND VOTED UPON AT
> OUR NEXT CBOG BOARD MEETING.
>
>
>
> Another roll cast question. The caster is on the water. He has 20' of fly
> line
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> extended beyond the rod tip and needs to cast to 50'. The caster lets out
> more
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> line by moving rod tip back and forth. Then to remove slack or straighten
> line I
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> had him roll cast on ce then roll cast a second time to hit the 50' mark.
> This is
>
& gt; the same as someone who is about to start fishing and they extended line out
> from
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> the rod tip and they need to get ready to cast. My question is what is the
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> purpose of the task? And how does the student execute it?
>
> +++++++++++++Our committee is currently debating need and usefullness of this task. Most of us on the committee believe we should eliminate this task since its very difficult to execute on grass where most testing occurs.
> THE INTENT OF THE TASK (DEMONSTRATE A NORMAL ROLL CAST IN WHICH THE LEADER
> STRAIGHTENS COMPLETELY AT 50') AS I HAVE INTERPRETED IT, IS TO HAVE THE
> CANDIDATE BE ABLE TO MAKE THE 50' DISTANCE WITHOUT EITHER AN INITIAL ROLL
> CAST OR ROLL CAST PICKUP. IN OTHER WORDS, WITH ONE CAST, NOT TWO. I'D HAVE
> NO OBJECTION TO HIS SHAKING OUT WHATEVER LINE LENGTH HE NEEDS.
>
> ANOTHER TASK READS, "DEMONSTRATE A, "SHOOTING ROLL CAST" TO 55' USING A
> SINGLE HAUL". OBVIOUSLY, THE HAUL AND THE SHOOT ARE NEEDED WHETHER OR NOT
> THE CANDIDATE SHAKES OUT A LENGTH O F LINE.
>
> THE ROLL CAST PICKUP IS A SEPARATE TASK.
>
> THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. RATHER THAN RELYING ON MY OPINION
> ALONE, LETS RUN THIS BY DUSTY TO SEE IF HE AND HIS COMMITTEE ARE LOOKING AT
> IT THE SAME WAY.GORDY
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> Thank you,
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> Molly
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