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    Hi, Walter....
     
    Waves were small, because the water was situated as a deep tongue of currents between shallow sand bars......so that wasn't the problem.
     
    Roll casting with that heavy Clouser didn't even get close to the distance needed.
     
    Ordinarily, we wouldn't use tight loops with a heavy weighted fly.....conventional wisdom and teaching would dictate that the loops should be opened up.  HOWEVER,  this (yours) IS one of the correct answers for this particular condition.  We learned from Mark Sedotti that one CAN cast a heavily weighted fly with a very tight loop.
    This takes incredibly sharp timing.  The trick is to avoid starting the next stroke until the loop literally straightens completely....not a split second too soon, or too late.
     
    Joe Humphries sometimes uses this technique for his back cast prior to his distance tuck cast.  He waits until he actually feels the tug before coming forward with his forward stroke.
     
    A water haul can help load the rod better and sooner ......but wasn't necessary most of the time.
     
    We found that our BEST solution was to make an elliptical (Belgian) cast.  The back cast is made low, climbing, with the continuous tension wide loop assisted by the wind.  The forward cast, is then made using a more vertical rod plane using a straight line path of the rod tip, unloading just below the oncoming line with a thrust cast (Stopping as you "run out of elbow".)  The turnover is helped by using a very fast tapered leader, and a last second, "check haul".  You get that tight loop with the thrust made with the rod tip aimed at your intended target, while elevating the casting arm.
     
    My brother, Dave, and I were using that technique again today......howling wind and driven rain didn't help.....however we landed 22 striped bass before we elected to quit as the misery factor increased.
     
                                                                                                          Gordy
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:44 AM
    Subject: Re: Mini-quiz

    Hey Gordy!

    I'm assuming that with a 12 MPH wind blowing into your face that the waves are fairly large (large enough to make roll casting, especially with sinking line and a weighted streamer, out of the question). For the forward cast that leaves a basic (overhead) cast with double haul and tight loops. The trajectory should be aimed such that the cast ends just above the water or as the line contacts the water. This would keep the line/streamer from being blown back at you between the end of the cast and the time it actually contacts the water. The back cast should be aimed high and with a wider loop to take advantage of the wind to straighten the line and preload the rod.

    With a 12 mph wind in your face you won't be able to shoot much line on the forward cast so that means you would need to hold most of the line in the air. This is going to be very difficult to do, especially on the forward part of the cast. The trick will be to shoot line on the last back cast before your final forward cast in order to get most of the line you need in the air.

    The conditions would be a good candidate for triple shooting.

    Good luck with your fishing.

    Walter

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Gordon Hill <hillshead@xxxxxxx>
    Date: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:34 am
    Subject: Mini-quiz

    >
    > Hi, Group....
    >
    > I'm at Cutchogue on Long Island, fishing for stripers......and
    > using a
    > borrowed computer.
    >
    > This morning, I was standing on a sandbar in Peconic Bay in the
    > pouring rain
    > and a 12 MPH wind blowing in my face.   I was using a 9 w fast rod
    > and a
    > WF9I line with a 6' fast tapered leader.  My fly was a 1/0 Clouser
    > with 1/8
    > Oz. lead eyes.
    >
    > QUESTION:  WHAT CASTS CAN I USE TO GET MY FLY OUT INTO THE WIND TO
    > FISH
    > FEEDING ABOUT 65 - 75 FEET OUT THERE ?
    >
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    >         
    >       Gordy
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