Jim....
For me, those figures are a bit off. Before you hang your hat on yours, go out and actually try this.
You are correct that a back shoot can improve that distance.
Also correct about some of the many things which can affect the distance.
Gordy
From: "jimpenrod" <t.maltese@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Gordon Hill" <hillshead@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Line carried / distance
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 11:31:57 -0500
Hi Gordy,I presume that 85 feet was with a haul and perhaps 40-45 feet of line out of the rod tip. With 50 feet and the ability to maintain good loops I would expect a cast of 95-105 fee.With 30 feet of line and not shooting on the final backcast I wouild think one should be able to get 50 to 70 feet.My simple formula for how much line to shoot would be 50% of the line carried well and then make the cast.A tail wind would certainly effect this or even a strong cross wind, a short rod or looked at the other way a longer rod,speed of the cast.Jim----- Original Message -----From: Gordon HillTo: flysoup@xxxxxxxxxx ; sobbobfish@xxxxxxx ; rtab@xxxxxxx ; CAPTPERMIT@xxxxxxx ; creangler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; dwright@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; daver@xxxxxxxxxx ; dennisg@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; captdoug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; dsprague01@xxxxxxxxxxx ; ephemera@xxxxxxx ; brushycreekfc@xxxxxxxxx ; barefootj@xxxxxxx ; bradyir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; flyfishar@xxxxxxxxxxx ; ken.cole@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; captkirk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; glbaggett@xxxxxxxxx ; mkreider1@xxxxxxx ; martyt@xxxxxxxxxx ; niallogan@xxxxxxxxxx ; pminnick@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; bigfly@xxxxxxxxx ; whorwood@xxxxxxxxx ; flycasts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; sheila@xxxxxxxxxx ; scjacobs@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; tharper@xxxxxxxxxxxCc: mildbill@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; caddis@xxxxxxx ; Brydnlnims@xxxxxxxxxxx ; cezannealexander@xxxxxxxxxxx ; crazycharlie@xxxxxxx ; croberts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; blacksalmon@xxxxxxxxxxx ; DermSox@xxxxxxx ; gladesflybum@xxxxxxxxx ; gavin@xxxxxxxxxxx ; hillshead@xxxxxxx ; iverson@xxxxxxxxx ; jfs523@xxxxxxxxxxx ; jerry_puckett2001@xxxxxxxxx ; kathleen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; thedamselfly@xxxxxxxxxxx ; plami@xxxxxxxxxxx ; ray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; kerrrc@xxxxxxxxx ; simbirsw@xxxxxxx ; bobbeanblossomFFF@xxxxxxxxxxx ; hillcathy@xxxxxxx ; dnewpher@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; donjack@xxxxxxxxxxx ; douglas.swift@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; erniemaynard@xxxxxxxxxxx ; flyfsfrank@xxxxxxx ; gregrahe@xxxxxxxxxxx ; hlhpc@xxxxxxx ; jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; jhara.carter@xxxxxxxxxxx ; harveyjl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; t.maltese@xxxxxxxxx ; skifishvail@xxxxxxxx ; jfv@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; trallag@xxxxxxx ; captflyrod@xxxxxxx ; mollysemenik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; fraudflies@xxxxxxx ; shane@xxxxxxxxx ; snowmonkey29@xxxxxxxSent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 2:18 PMSubject: Line carried / distanceGroup....
Questions to ponder:
1.) You are a good caster, and can easily make the 85' target using a 7 wt. rod and a WF7F line. It's a nice day, with no wind at all.
How far are you likely to be able to cast when you purposely carry 50' of line out of the rod tip before making your presentation cast. ?
2.) Now you are limiting yourself to carrying only 30' of line. How far are you likely to be able to cast, now ?
3.) What simple formula would you use to come up with the approximate length of flyline that you can shoot relative to the amount of line carried while false casting ? (The approximate length of the shoot.)
4.) What external factors would change this ratio ?
Gordy