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    Walter.....
     
    I saw a similar description, many years ago.
     
    The wording all makes sense, until you get to the, "outward swing".  I interpret this, however, to mean that the caster is using a horizontal rod plane for his delivery cast.....not swing his arm out to the side, which would be self-defeating.
     
    A change of rod planes between the back stroke and the forward stroke is a key element of the elliptical or, so-called, "Belgian cast".
     
    As you know, this can take several forms.  Most casters use the term to mean a cast in which the back cast is made with the rod in a horizontal plane, and the delivery stroke made with a more vertical rod plane.
     
    Of course, the reason the cast became known as the, "Belgian cast", was that it was used by a Belgian named Albert Godart to win a distance fly casting event in international competition in the 1930's.
     
    I have been told that he did that, however, using what I have called a, "Reverse Belgian Cast"  in that his cast was actually made using an off vertical rod plane for his back cast, and a horizontal rod plane for his forward delivery.  His style may have been explained by his physical habitus.  He was described as a short, stocky, very powerfully muscled man.  I have found this cast to be very effective for certain high wind situations......particularly when wading sand bars in the salt.
     
    This may explain the dilemma provided by the fact that the cast was named for him at a European competition where there surely had to have been other continental casters familiar with the "continuous tension" cast of Hans Gebesroither in Austria who is credited with fathering this kind of elliptical cast which he taught to Charles Ritz and many others during his years of being head keeper on the Traun. 
     
    Fascinating stuff !!!!!
     
                                                                                                    Gordy
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:56 AM
    Subject: Re: Goofed.

    No problem - here it is
     
    Gordy -
     
    Just picked up a fly casting booklet published in 1941. It describes something called the wind cast for casting into the wind. The cast is similar to an overhead cast with a high back cast but "the forward cast is made in a powerful manner down toward the front with an outward swing."
     
    "Properly executed as to height of back cast, pause, and degree of outward movement on the forward cast, coupled with the right amount of vim and power on the forward stroke, this cast will make the line cut into the wind much better than a straight overhead cast - hence its name.
     
    The angler will not care to use this method save as a matter of necessity, for it is hard on both wrist and rod."
     
    Are you familiar with this cast? Does it really work? Can it be coupled with a haul?
     
    Also has some interesting info on equipment such as fly lines. Oiled silk was considered the cheapest fly line but not recommended at the time. Enameled lines were considered very good and nylon was the best available at the time.
     
    Cheers
     
    Walter
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 5:32 AM
    Subject: Goofed.

    Walter...
     
    I accidentally erased your message this morning.  Can you send it, again?
     
                                                                          Gordy