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Walter & Group...
[GH] We are learning of so many ways of using the "saltwater quick casts" in fresh water, that I have trimmed the title of this message down to: Quick cast 14. Perhaps this is why Lefty Kreh called it the SPEED CAST. More generic since it leaves the "salt" out of it for those who use these casts in rivers, lakes, etc.
Gordy
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[GH] Comment on our last message by Gary Davison:
[GH] An important concept from Phil Gay :
Gordy,
Although you mention the clearing cast as recommended I call it mandatory. If the not the first line to go out is on the bottom of the pile. So my personal requirement when testing is for the candidate to not only specifically mention the clearing cast but to explain the purpose as well.
Of course I would defer to you as you have much more experience here than do I.
Phil
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[GH] Phil,
A resounding YES !
We should never try to shoot line from the bottom of a pile with any cast let alone the quick casts.
That is a major reason for the clear cast. While failure to do this is not listed as a "reason for failure" on the Master exam, I suppose it should be. (Although the resulting tangle will be obvious).
A second purpose is to have no more line out from the reel than you are likely to need. Any more than that is simply "there to hurt you" in three ways -
1.) If a fish takes with blinding speed, this excess line can jump up and tangle.
2.) Coils of line lying unused on a smoking hot boat deck in the tropical sun tend to stick together. Unused coils spend more time being "fried". That is a prime way to get tangles.
3.) Twists in the line are more likely to occur if you keep making casts without taking up all the line out of the reel each time you shoot it out.
Here's a little trick which works for me:
When I want to cease fishing and go to another spot, I usually make a cast and then retrieve the line onto the reel. If there is some reason not to do that, like weeds all over the surface, etc., etc. I can usually avoid tangles as I reel line in from the bottom of the "ready pile" by crouching way down with the reel close to the level of the line pile. The line slides sideways from the bottom of the pile.
Another trick: If my line coils on the deck are off to my line hand side, I'm a lot less likely to get a tangle if I place my line hand out directly over the center of the pile and let the line shoot as Lefty has described it, through a ring made by my thumb and forefinger.
Yet another: When I have an angler who is fishing from the bow who decides to move to the stern, I never let him drag the line on the deck or cockpit to the new position. Before making the move, I have him make a "clear cast" and then move and retrieve it to the new position.
Glad you brought that up !!!
Gordy
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[GH] From Bob Rumpf:
Hi Gordy & group,
I am jumping in here early on the topic of uses for the quick cast in fresh water, and there are many. Actually more than I can think of quickly, but I'll list a few that come to mind immediately.
In some of the really large pools on the Delaware, trout are often not in feeding lanes but cruise and take available insects as they light on the surface. The trick here is to get a fly out to that spot before the fish moves on. Astute anglers stand ready, some fly in hand, awaiting a rise whereupon they fire a cast to the rise area.
Not my personal favorite style of fishing, but very popular here on the E. & W. branches of the Delaware is done from drift boats. The same application as mentioned above applies, as soon as a rise is spotted, the angler fires a cast, usually beginning with a roll cast pickup, one back cast and the final presentation.
Those of us who fish for pike and musky with a fly, search and stalk the weed beds looking for the tell-tale swirl made my these sizable fish and when activity is observed an immediate cast to that spot follows. In these type weed beds, it is necessary to hold the fly. The same method would apply to bass fishing while wading in weed areas.
Some people use something very close to a quick cast when sight fishing for steelhead. It is naturally important to get the fly out to the fish before he decides to move.
I am convinced that freshwater anglers who are very comfortable performing the quick cast, will find uses for it around every bend. I find I use it frequently and consider it a huge plus for any angler who fishes big water and a cast all serious anglers should consider adding to their arsenal.
Regards,
Bob Rumpf
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[GH] Another fresh water application of speed casts, by Bruce Barker:
Hi Gordy
Here in Tasmania we have trout fishing where it is useful to apply much of what has been discussed in this topic thread.
Known locally as Shark Fishing (because the trout look like cruising sharks), and apparently, peculiar to Tasmania, trout in the body of our largest lake ( ~40 feet deep) swim near surface in the waves, foam lines and wind lanes in search of terrestrial beetles etc .
On a cloudless summers day, with the sun high and with a good breeze fish can be spotted anywhere from close to the boat to 100 ft or more away. The need is to present the fly in front of the fish quickly and accurately with minimal false casting. The boat might be drifting downwind or under power (electric or outboard) often in windy conditions, when searching for the fish. They generally swim up-wind towards you and it all happens rather quickly. A pair of anglers best take it in turns to fish whilst the other assists spotting and managing the boat. Very exciting visual fishing.
Thought others might be interested to to hear about this. You can view Shark Fishing footage at http://www.sexyloops.tv/ . See SLTV 10
Regards
Bruce
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[GH] Bruce,
Having spent time casting with Peter Hayes of Tasmania, I'd heard this ... but I was hesitant to comment since I'd not had personal experience with this fishery. I figured one of you would come in with it.
A new use for the term, "SHARK FISHING" to confuse the troops !
Gordy
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