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Walter & Group...
[GH] From Ivan Streif. Highlighting in red is mine:
Hello Gordy,
>From the perspective of a someone who recently took the CCI test, I would prefer not to be videotaped during the test. I routinely take video of myself practicing and it is a great tool to identify flaws and help to direct my practice toward correcting them, but personally I think it would add an additional degree of anxiety to the testing process to know that my performance was being recorded. I would be more self conscious about the exact wording of every answer if I knew it could be reviewed and critiqued further afterwards.
Having said that, if the examiner asked if I would allow videotaping of the test I probably would not say no, primarily because I would not want to give the impression that I was insecure about my abilities. Deep down though, I'm sure it would make me more self conscious and detract from the personal interaction between candidate and examiners.
Ivan Streif
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Ivan,
Your second paragraph speaks volumes !
I'm sure many candidates would do the same thing.
If videoing became the expected procedure, I wonder how many candidates would be intimidated enough to simply avoid going through the exam? In the same breath, I wonder how many would relish the experience?
Gordy
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[GH] From Michael Gallart:
Hello Gordie & Group,
The MSGroup is great as always.
I'm the counterpoint. I have a few reasons I believe it would be detrimental. Video as a tool is fantastic for learning and teaching and should be done so often!
The exam is neither a teaching or learning event per se (IMHO). It's a trial of skill, experience and knowledge for the examined. The examiners are charged with making observations, generating improvised responses and requests based on the MCI Elect's performance. No two tests are alike. I believe it's a first time every time event. The outcome is a pass or fail. If a fail, a building block for the examined to aid them in their personal journey.
The FFF would have no way to determine how or where the footage would be used or edited. There are the occasional detractors of the program and one isolated clip would not show the breadth of the FFF CICP.
I have been a filmmaker for over 30 years and I all to well know the pressure that professionals on both sides of the camera experience while cameras are rolling. I believe both parties do not require the stress. My first concern was for the examiners, lest they be judged and feel stressed.
With that, I'm for filming the exam if it is properly staged, filmed with required camera angles. The casts performed by skilled casters and the role's of examiners portrayed as agreed upon by the BOG.
Respectfully
Michael
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[GH] I highlighted your last sentence. This is the way the CICP is planning to go starting with the MCI exam tasks. Of course, that is a lot different than videoing an actual exam. The carefully staged "exam" with casts done by experts should go a long way toward helping budding candidates.
Gordy
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[GH] Ward Nicholas brings up a problem I see frequently as I give trial casting exams to candidates at both CCI and MCI levels who have traveled from a different part of the World :
Hi Gordy
I know this is off topic but I am slowly working towards my MCI and I have been working with a CCI candidate. He has just travelled about 3,000km south so he and his equipment will see a far drop in temperature about 15 to 20 degrees Celsius. He has noticed his distance cast is coming up a little short, he can through it easily in the Tropics. My suggest, is to warm up a lot longer than normal to get not only his body but also the equipment going. Does this seem like the correct approach. He will be spending about a week acclimatizing to the area as well.
Ward
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[GH] Ward,
Not at all off topic.
I have noted the opposite, as well. The student or candidate sometimes comes from other parts of the country where the altitude is greater and the ambient temperature a lot cooler than it is here in the tropics. They don't cast as well until they have practiced in the "new environment" for a while.
It is almost routine for this candidate being trial tested to be amazed that he/she can't do as well as expected on the distance casts. The response is always the same, " .....At home, I can make the distance every time.". Then they try with more force. That only makes it worse.
This includes well seasoned competition distance casters who are amazed that they can't even come close to their accustomed distances.
I live at sea level on the salt water. When I go to a conclave at higher altitudes, I don't make distance casts nearly as well as I do at home. After a few days there, I do better.
Part of the problem, I think, is that when fishing, they are using salt water tackle which they aren't used to and are casting from a rocking skiff .... however, the problem exists even when casting on a grass field with the same outfit they've practiced with at home.
In the situation you describe, I suspect it is a combination of things such as the air being denser when cooler, and simply the hard to define effect of an athletic event being done in unfamiliar circumstances. (No, "home team advantage").
Some "super casters" who travel a lot do fine. I have fished with Steve Rajeff in the cold of Alaska and here in the tropics and he makes outstanding casts wherever he is..
I think you have the right approach. I'd relax him by explaining the environmental differences. That way, he isn't blaming himself. (That can be a "downer".)
Start by critique of his distance cast... especially his tracking and back cast loops. Give him an awareness of the amount of line he can carry while casting with high loop speed without the loops deteriorating. Then let him practice by himself.
My bet is that if you give him enough time to practice ON HIS OWN, at the end of the week he'll be doing fine.
Gordy
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[GH] On videoing exams: Points and counterpoints are coming in. Many good things to consider on each side. More on this with our next message as new considerations emerge.
Gordy
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