Loop formation problem 8

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[GH] From Ally Gowans. I attached his sketch to this message :

Hi Gordy,

Re Tom Dempsey’s back loop problem. I assume that this is particularly noticeable during the first back cast so I have made a sketch of a remedy that works very well for most casters. Rather than put it into words I made the attached sketch for you.

Best regards,

Ally Gowans

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[GH] Ally,

Very clear. For those who might question acceleration having a direction, I call attention to the fact that acceleration is a vector quantity, not a scalar one and, therefore, must have direction.

The loop is sometimes too large as the caster picks up from the water in one trajectory, then tries to finish the back cast in a more horizontal line plane.

One way to avoid that, is to pick up and maintain that pickup trajectory all the way through the completion of the back cast (180 degree "rule"), then change line planes on the following forward cast as desired.

Gordy

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[GH] From Tim Lawson:

Hi Gordy,

Tips to help Tom control the back cast loop when using a vertical plane:

1). LIFT your elbow. The rod tip has to be traveling UP at the STOP. Sidearm casters are used to keeping their elbow "on the shelf".

2). STOP the rod before the rod tip reaches vertical (12 o'clock). Once the rod tip goes past vertical, counter flex can only direct the rod leg DOWN.

3). Overpowering the cast increases counter flex and compounds number 2.

4). On longer casts, open your stance and lengthen your backcast stroke, i.e., don't stop the rod by slamming your forearm into your bicep, rather, extend your arm UP and BACK. This is easier (for me) with a V grip rather than thumb-on-top.

Tim

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[GH] Tim,

#4). Is most efficiently accomplished for most casters by opening the stance (as you pointed out) and combining this with an off vertical casting plane. It can be done with a vertical casting plane, but the distance achievement will be limited except for experts who use the vertical casting plane as their preferred style.

Some of them use the "Borger Lay-Back" to gain increased stroke length and casting arc for greater distance on the following forward cast.* Others use back drift. ** ***

That V grip will help many casters avoid excessive wrist action, even though it is a matter of style.

* Jason Borger's NATURE OF FLY CASTING, by Jason Borger, 2001, pp.232-233.

** Joan Wulff's NEW FLY-CASTING TECHNIQUES, by Joan Wulff, 2012, pp. 38- 39, 81,52-53.

*** CASTING WITH LEFTY KREH, by Lefty Kreh, 2008, p.53.

Gordy

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