Walter & Group...
From Jim Bass:
Gordy. Al taught us to use the following phrase when starting a student out."Cast UP behind you and OUT in front of you, then follow the line to the ground". The out in front will help the caster stop the rod higher and then follow the presentation down to the surface. Hope this helps.
Best Jim
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[GH] Key word, there = THEN !
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Craig Buckbee sends this article written back in 1996 by the late Jim Green.
Gordy,
Here are some of Jim Green's thoughts on the matter, from back in 1996 :
Craig
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[GH] From Mike Heritage:
Hi Gordy,
I'm glad to hear you didn't suffer too badly from the storm.
Because most of my instructing is based mainly on creating a good loop the stop is a vital part of the lesson. I used to use the phrase 'stop the rod' but after watching several students seem to chase the rod tip to try and make it stop (and ending up with no stop) I now emphasize the hand stopping rather than the rod. I now tend to do a brief demonstration to new (to me) clients, regardless of ability. They are not instructors after all and may never have considered what has to be allowed to happen by stopping their hand at the end of each stroke. I demo the condition the rod is in at the stop (loaded) and the necessity of allowing that load to unload properly to create the loop.
Mike
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[GH] Mike,
Interesting point. Of course, even if we were able to effect a true "stop" in the sense that it means instant cessation of all motion, the rod tip would continue to move. What I think we really do as we come to the end of the cast, is to start a rapid "stop sequence" of the hand and, perforce, the rod handle. Some physicists have argued that this isn't simple rapid deceleration, but I still think of it that way.
As we've discussed before, if we really did have an immediate stop, we'd have all kinds of rod vibrations leading to a destroyed cast layout.
Whatever we elect to call it, it remains true that the more quickly we mere mortals can bring the rod hand to an "almost stop" the more likely it is that we'll meet our distance and casting efficiency objectives.
Whether scientifically flawed or not, the terms "positive stop" and "hard stop" do get into students' brains to help them make well controlled small loop casts.
Do we always need "hard stops" and tight loops? Of course not. Paul Arden has pointed that out in the past.
Gordy
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[GH] Question from Frank Harford:
Gordy
What is it about the crisp stop that makes for tight loops ? Is it just that we are less likely to bend our wrist and open up the loop or is it more complex than that . I have experimented myself and I think that if I make a mushy stop but keep my wrist stiff the loop doesn't open up , but I'm not 100% sure . Has anyone done some measurements ?
Frank
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[GH] Good question! Let's see if some of you can answer Frank.
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