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Gordy
I found some quotes.
Simplicity is an exact medium between too little and too much.
Sir Joshua Reynolds
"A little inaccuracy sometimes saves a ton of explanation."
- H. H. Munro (Saki) (1870-1916)
"There are two ways of constructing a software design; one way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult."
- C. A. R. Hoare
"Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
All the best
Gary Davison
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[GH] From Mark Surtees:
Hi Gordy
"Finally as an MCI I have a responsibility to ensure that those that wish to get to the standard need to start to think out of the box and be able to answer the questions that another candidate in training may ask."
Yes, most definitely, but its sometimes a bloody hard job to get back to thinking inside the box once you’ve had a sneaky peep out over the lid…. J
Mark
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[GH] A fresh thought for teaching, by Scott Swartz:
Gordy,
I believe the level of discussion very appropriate for a MCI study group. Still, I was relieved to see others who thought this got a little “deep”. I found myself repeating my mantra…it’s just fishing…it’s just fishing…
I do enjoy trying to comprehend and distill the knowledge to its simplest teaching KISS principles. I will amend what I teach to “The fly line TRIES to follow the rod tip”.
Capt. Scott Swartz
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[GH] Another MCI candidate shares his view. From Syd Smith :
Gordy
I'm not sure whether this will help or not, but it is my present point of view. We are dealing with some "geeky" i.e. physically detailed concepts in fly casting that might seem to be irrelevant to our present teaching of the cast with use of the 5 essentials. However, as in my practice of medicine, something "geeky" now may well have consolidated into old hat in 10 years, with the continuing emergence of more and more "geeky" but very important concepts. To think that we fully understand the cast may be comforting but is almost certainly not true. There are almost certainly presently hidden physical characteristics of the cast that will be illuminated as time passes, aided by the scrutiny of unafraid and inquisitive individuals such as those presently discussing.
On the other side, I see another way of looking at our "geeky" discussion. When I teach students the cast I often start by showing them how to "build a cast" utilizing the 5 Gammel principles. I start with the SLP of the rod tip because it can be shown to dictate many of the other 5 essentials: the requirement of the correct amount of force to maintain SLP which can dictate the stroke length for a given amount of line out being an example. Whatever physical principles yet undiscovered there be, are obviously incorporated into a good cast. It is easy to inform the student that many, many things are going on in the cast, the details of which are debated, sometimes hotly. But what they are learning is how to make the good cast, which must incorporate all of them. They are learning a time honored "how" to make a good cast, not all the ultimate details of what is physically occurring.
I don't see a conflict in digging as deeply as we can. It almost certainly will be shown to not have been deeply enough. We as instructors aiming to be Masters need to attempt to understand all that we can and assimilate it into our thinking as best we can. Whether we ultimately choose not to actively use a particular point of view, it should only be after due scrutiny and the decision should not cause us to forget what that opinion was - it could come back to bite.
Syd Smith CCI
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