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[GH] Back on topic. This reply from Paul Arden :
I disagree with your last point Gordy. As a BOG you can examine CIs on your own, and to examine an MCI you require either two BOGs or One BOG and two MCI. This indicates that BOGs are of a higher standard than MCIs.
Unfortunately this is clearly not always the case. Quite frankly if anyone is to administer an MCI exam he or she should make bloody certain that not only can they do it but also that their knowledge base is current. Otherwise they run the risk of looking pretty stupid on both accounts and let down the program.
That is why IMO if BOGs are to continue administering MCI exams then it is essential that they are continually reassessed in their ability to do so and dropped from BOG when they fail. If this is unacceptable, then the BOG should relinquish their examination duties and pass them on to a trained board of examiners. I'm quite sure that there are highly important skills required as individuals in the BOG that do not include administering exams.
Cheers, Paul
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[GH] Paul,
Your first statement is correct. Also, when there is a team of 2 Masters and one BOG performing an MCI exam, the BOG is expected to be the lead examiner of the team.
I think it was originally set up this way because the BOG's were more likely to be up to date on matters of examination protocol .... not because they possessed more knowledge or casting skills than other Masters. Most BOG's have had time and experience "in service" for years as Masters before joining the Board.
As you may know, the issues of continued education and maintained competence are being discussed in committee at present. The question of whether or not to have specific testing qualifications for future examiners is included.
I agree that special acquired skills of testing are needed for any lead examiner. This is probably best met by specific training and experience as well as evidence of current competence.
I can tell you that if and when the time comes that I feel my casting knowledge and physical skills have fallen behind, I'll voluntarily withdraw from being an examiner. I know I'm not the only BOG with that opinion.
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[GH] From Dave Barron :
Gordy
I find this topic of a hierarchy concerning. I have to agree with your statement: "(GH) As far as "hierarchy" is concerned, as a CBOG member, I consider myself as a Master who has volunteered to take on some of the tasks of FFF CICP day to day responsibilities. In no way do I feel that I outrank other Masters. I think I can speak for our other CBOGs when I say that most if not all of them look at it the same way."
At the first board meeting I attended in 1998 it was made very clear to me that a governor was to help administer the CICP. I have always been told that a Governor was just a MCI with administrated duties.
From Paul Arden :
"Ultimately it's down to us as instructors to try to stay current. We should be retesting, we should have trained examiners etc etc. "
I agree with Paul on this and so has the board, that is why we the board has two committees working on this subject. The committees are the continuing certification committee and the continuing education committee the CICP board is trying to address some of the problems we are seeing.
Dave
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[GH] From Carl McNeil :
Hi Gordy, as you know, I produce fly fishing and casting video for a living - so you might have to make a judgment call on this one. I certainly don't wish to sully the list with commercialism! - in saying that, I've only mentioned resources that are free. Edit as you see fit.
Carl
To answer Ted Warren's question:
There's a wealth of really great casting material on YouTube, and many members of this group have done a wonderful job of putting together some very informative and revealing clips.
Aitor, Lasse, and Chase all have great collections, and there are many more - just search on fly casting on YouTube. Here - 6210 results! http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fly+casting&aq=f
Our own channel has well over 1 million views, and includes a set of Bill Gammels 5 Essentials (with Bills blessing), and much more - all free for the taking.
I'm currently in the process of taking our entire Fly casting DVD "Casts that Catch Fish" and putting each lesson up on YouTube. 9 casts in all and covers the most common slack line casts plus dealing with the wind and a couple of other little tips.
They're be released progressively over the next few weeks as I manage to find time.
You'll find 10 lessons linked on the right hand side http://www.youtube.com/user/Bumcast?blend=7&ob=5#p/c/AFFE1BA2E6932540
Enjoy
Carl
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[GH] Carl,
Many thanks ! You have just opened the door to a trove of fly casting learning material.
Frankly, for a candidate to sign up for the ones which cost a few $$$, this would be a worthwhile expenditure. Less the money some of us spend on a library of flycasting books, video tapes and DVD's.
All should be aware of your quality efforts.
Those of Aitor Coteron, Bernd Ziesche, Chase Jablonski are, in my opinion, some of the very best.
Aitor and Bernd have worked together to produce videos which prove and/or disprove a number of fly casting theories both old and current.
One can "Google" or use another search engine to find all sorts of fly casting information as well as videos of casting and casting techniques. The problem is recognition of what is misinformation and what is pure gold.
CCI candidates can have more confidence as they review this material when they know the quality/reliability of the sources. As you know, some of the stuff out there is suspect to say the least. A lot of it, in turn, is very good.
Well experienced CCI's and most MCI candidates will usually be able to watch them and separate "the wheat from the chaff".
Gordy
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