CONGRATULATIONS ! / Critique continuted (4)

Hi Gordy,

Peter Lami wrote:

"Aitor Coteron's question is easy to answer. Maximum acceleration occurs at peak load."

It isn't that easy, I am afraid. I attach a Word file with comments that pose some doubts about that statement.

Regards,

Aitor

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Aitor:

The pictures combined with the Casting Analyzer graphs are crystal clear.

The youtube web address video is of a cast made to demonstrate a tailing loop. I placed your attachments with this message.

Gordy

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David Lambert responds to Dennis Grant's message :

"(DAVID) Darker line is rod tip path from small illumination at rod tip.The lighter line is the fly line.

My computer might make a different display of the pictures than others. The rod tip path is the brighter line on my pictures and the darker (less visible) is the fly line. I would expect that the key point here is when the line path crosses the rod tip path. The line is being pulled by the rod and the line is falling. The second that the rod tip path drops below the line path the loop must begin to form. The line cannot climb over the rod tip, the rod tip has to drop below the line path for the loop to take over. The cross over appears to be happening at the ceiling light which should put the loop formation slightly prior to or at RSP.

This appears in the first photo. The cross over point is consistent in all 3 photos."

Gordy and Dennis -

Regrading Dennis' comment on brightness and lightness.

Yep, brighter is the better word. It's what I meant, of course; rod tip

is brighter with a light at the tip (or something). The lesser

illuminated (or fainter) is the line.

Ain't wordes great?

David

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From Gary Davison :

Gordy,

Good quiz this week. I too was not able to provide answers based on the events of the week.

Great to see all the input. Sending my thoughts on a couple of the subjects below.

If you remember Gordy, I asked a question not long ago about acceleration, wondering about the correct wording?

Of course at the time I ask about continuous vs constant base on a thread from one of our members which unfortunately I can not remember who it was. Tried to look back on past threads but could not find it. But I keyed in on the word "Continuous" being used instead of Constant by this member when teaching. Both words have merit, but may not be needed.

The cast:

We all know we start from a somewhat stop position, (I say this as some what because we are always in the mode of movement during the cast with our bodies leaning, drifting, follow through or, sliding to obtain position) and then move forward or back to make the cast, using a smoothly applied higher incremental stages of velocity (Hence the term "Acceleration" which describes the task) to the stop.

I think smooth Acceleration may be enough to explain the task. Constant or Continuous may be to confining for this subject in my opinion.

With regards to when loop formation begins:

This can be very subjective in nature due to the variables involved.

Rod flex has a lot to do with when this may happen in my opinion. Generally speaking I can only say that it happens when the line passes the rod tip after RSP during Counter Flex (In my opinion the momentum and speed of the rod tip can equal the speed of the line for portions of the Counter Flex phase of the standard fly cast depending on the flex of the rod).

Rod flex will dictate where this loop formation will take place after RSP within the Counter Flex phase of the cast.

Thank you Gordy for the platform and to the members who add so much to this study group.

All the best

Gary Davison