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- Subject: AWAY / Teaching / Use of assistants / Fishing
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:01:05 -0500
Walter & Group....
I WILL BE AWAY FOR A FEW DAYS DURING OUR
THANKSGIVING FAMILY GATHERING.
HAPPY THANGSGIVING DAY TO ALL
!
Gordy
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TEACHING
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From Dennis Grant:
Hi Gordy
Great tips from my friend David Lambert. David is a
very good teacher and writer and I always enjoy reading his articles. I like the
idea of the questionnaire a few weeks ahead of any instruction, certainly
gives instructors a 'heads up' on the students expectations and any
foreseeable issues that may arise.
David makes a strong point on diagnostic
ability and I agree. This is something our school works on all the time. When we
know of a new instructor in the area or a potential CI, MCI, we invite them to
attend a class. The candidate will shadow one of our current
instructors, and only make comments to the CI they are shadowing. If they
have picked up on an issue correctly with a student then they can make the
appropriate instruction. This method avoids any embarrassment for the trainee and any confusion for the student. An 'on the job'
training or apprenticeship.
You have had many great comments on the
2 minute instruction method. We have employed this system for the past 18
years. It is a method that instructors need to
practice ! Instructors need to be aware
and to make a point and move on, this can be a trap for an instructor, some
students are very engaging and also working with the fast learners is more
appealing to some than working with the new casters.
I particularly enjoyed reading the note from
Will Turek on "Assimilation and
Accommodation". This is a very understandable and enlightening note
and I have added it to many of the same from you
Gordy. It has always been a project of mine to get into the head of
my students in the least intrusive way, make the wheels turn, and look for
facial expressions. Now I have a better understanding of the
process.
Dennis
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Dennis....
We would not have had this valuable
string of messages were it not for you !
Many thanks. We're all learning a
great deal.
Gordy
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From Al Crise:
Howdy Gordy and
Gang
One of the aspects of
teaching that Gordy and I use is "Teaching the Extremes" too hard too soft Too
fast too slow. This is something that they can take home after the
lesson
I encourage the student to
make mistakes to see just what the line tells them
This is some of the "alone
time" Watching from a distance I can see the student make a cast with too much
power then too little. Watching the results in the flow of the fly
line,
they see the differences. This is
what happens in everything we learn.
I use this as my
example.
When you
started out driving your Dad said Stop the Car. YOU stomped on the brake peddle
hard and he Kissed the dash. The next time you had to stop you eased on the
brakes and hit the car in front of you. He kissed the dash again. Too hard too
soft. YOU had to find the right amount of peddle pressure to bring the car to a
safe stop. I tell them to change one thing at a time. This will let them see the
difference the EXTREMES make. I can not tell them how many Zoomes it takes to
make a 40 ft cast only the Effect of what they do can be seen and
felt.
Time alone will benefit
from casting wrong. Do not tell them that a cast was wrong if they are learning
by this method They will see it for themselves.
ol Al
Allen R. Crise
FFF-Master
Casting Instructor
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Al.... True. I love your term,
"ZOOMIES" to describe application of power !
During ALONE TIME, the best students will be
teaching themselves using the tools you gave them.
As you know full well, kids will do what you tell
them to do.... then with their alone time, they will experiment with
all sorts of ridiculous variations .... only to return to what they were taught
if it works better for them.
Of course, if the student doesn't catch on with
the use of this method, we as instructors have to step in and make the
correction (s) before the faulty movements are repeated sufficiently to breed
faulty "muscle memory".
G.
From Pete Greenan
Assistance of CCIs
From time to time in the winter months I use one or
more of the instructors in out area. I am fortunate to have several to
choose from. I know them all adn fished with most, so my choice is usually
someone I've grown accustomed to.
Pete
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USE OF ASSISTANT CI'S
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Follow-up message from Pete Greenan
:
Assistance of CCIs
From time to time in the winter months I use one or
more of the instructors in out area. I am fortunate to have several to
choose from. I know them all adn fished with most, so my choice is usually
someone I've grown accustomed to.
Pete
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OTHER DISCIPLINES / SPORTS
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Lewis Hinks comes up with a
positive note on teaching :
Hi Gordy,
I have been away from my
computer for a couple of days. Due to a number of circumstances I have become
much more involved with my son's hockey team, and as a result have had to take
some coaching certification courses. What sturck me during the 2 day
certification course was the similarities between teaching/coaching fly casting
and coaching hockey. I can see many crossovers between the 2 sports, from a
teaching/coaching perspective. Identifying the skill/task, breaking the task
into component pieces and developing drills/exercises for each component. Then
putting all the pieces together to complete the task.
During our dicussions at the
certification course, I was amazed at the the number of times I was able to
relate a fly casting teaching experience with the hockey teaching/coaching
discussions.
I guess the principles of
coaching/teaching are essentially the same whether it be hockey or fly
casting.
BTW, a number of the other
coaches at my course approached me after the sessions asking about fly casting
instruction.
Cheers,
Lewis
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Lewis,
You have self discovered a
great truth.
We have learned a great deal
about teaching fly casting from experiencing other disciplines. This
includes ski instruction and golf.
Chuck Easterling introduced
me to Harvey Pennick's LITTLE RED BOOK . Dusty
Sprague sent me a copy about 3 years ago.
As you may know, Harvey has been
considered one of Golf's most effective teachers. In reading his book, I
was struck by the fact that if I substuted the term "fly casting" for "golf"
throughout the text that it would have made a great read for fly casting
instructors as far as the principles of teaching are concerned.
One example is Harvey's super-slow
pantomimed golf swing. Works when used for the casting stroke as
well.
Gordy
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FISHING
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From Philip Maher (In
follow-up to Kirk Eberhards message and photo) :
Hi
Gordy in relation to the loop of line and striking a fish. I have found that
there is 3 very successful ways of hooking Atlantic Salmon.
1 I
make a cast and get my fly swimming around as it swims I keep my rod at about 45
degrees this will then form a large bow of slack for the salmon to take with
little resistance as this happens I drop my rod and when all the slack line is
gone and I feel the fish I set the hook.
2
same as the picture large loop of line left slip as the fish
takes.
3 I
use this the most when fish are not taking right and when teaching a beginner.
Cast as normal and as the fly is drifting in the current I set the drag on the
reel tight enough to just barley hold against the pull of the water. This
way when a fish takes he can take line straight from the reel with little
resistance and even if the angler strikes the reel will just slip faster. The
sound of a reel going z zz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and then just
tighten up into the fish is a heart rendering moment for any angler.
Hope
this is of some help
Regards
Philip
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Philip.... Yes. the Z
Z Z ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ As well as the
"Hardy Screech" can be heart stoppers !
G.
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