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Yesterday, I sent a message with some fine suggestions on teaching classes sent by David Lambert.  I included a picture sent by Kirk Eberhard.  This picture turned out to use up so many bytes that, according to my MailList Controller, 8 of you couldn't open it or access the message.  If you are one of those members, simply let me know and I'll send the message without the picture.      Gordy

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                                                 Answers to Dennis' latest questions

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From Rene Hesse :

Now, let's outline Dennis's new questions with a bit of my input ....    G. :

 

1.)  Dennis points out that three 2 minute visits with each student is more valuable than one 6 minute visit.  If you agree, tell us why.

 

I agree with the 2 min. rule because we can get them to see the error, understand what caused it,

and show them how to fix it, in that time. 

The most important thing is to only 'fix' one thing at a time. 

 

2.) Where would you like the casters to make their casts in relation to wind direction ?

 

D. Wind from the line hand side.

    

     a. Wind from behind      b. Wind from in front   c.  Wind from the casting hand side  d. Wind from the line hand side.  e. Quartering with respect to the wind.

 

     

 

3.)  Why might this be important to the students ?

 

Keep the line away from the body

Allows for balanced power applicatioin on FC and BC.

 

4.)  Why is this so important to the course director ?

 

Safety first, and also consideration for any left handers that may be in the mix.

 

Gordy

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From Jim Chestnut.  I made a couple of comments in his answer text in italics :

 

HI Gordy,

I have been reading all the questions and answers even though my

participation has not been much - largely because I have no professional

teaching experience to back up my thoughts. However, I would like to throw

out my thoughts on the questions below.

Let me congratulate you on passing your CCI exam, Jim ..... Now you need to get out their and teach all you can to get "seasoned".   G.

　1.) Dennis points out that three 2 minute visits with each student is

more valuable than one 6 minute visit. If you agree, tell us why.

This would enable the instructor to explain and demonstrate one deficiency

and its corrective measure at a time, and give the student time to work on

it while the instructor was working with the next student.

You are one of the few who pointed out the "alone time" to work on the problem after a brief session with one of the CCI's.   Good.     G.

2.) Where would you like the casters to make their casts in relation to

wind direction ?

a. Wind from behind b. Wind from in front c. Wind from the

casting hand side d. Wind from the line hand side. e. Quartering

with respect to the wind.

If the wind were a light breeze and very steady in direction, I would like

to see it coming in from an 8:30 direction for right-handers.If stronger

and/or variable direction then from 9:00 average direction.

　

3.) Why might this be important to the students ?

1) A breeze slightly quartering from behind will make the backcast

slightly more difficult - a good thing I believe, to help get all casters

conscious of their backcasts, yet not a big enough factor so that they get

discouraged, as a breeze from directly behind can do. This direction will

also give the forward cast a slight boost which I think will help build

their confidence in getting a line out in front.

Some might take issue with this on the basis that the back cast is the set-up for the forward cast.  I, for one, would not want this set-up when working with beginning students.   G.

 

It will also tend to make

them less "gun-shy" as the breeze will blow the fluff away from their head

and eyes. Without this distraction, they will be able to concentrate on

their casting without the nagging worry of pegging themselves.

4.) Why is this so important to the course director ? It will blow the

fluff away from the casters' eyes and bodies.

In the event of variable directions or strong winds, I would try to orient

the casters with the winds from 9:00 o'clock so as to even out the effect

on forward and back casts as best as possible.

9:00 being with wind from the line hand side for a right handed caster, but not the case with a "lefty".  Best to describe wind direction with relation to any caster as was done with the question.    G.

Cheers,

Jim

　

 

 

From Gary Davison :

 

Gordy,

 

Here is my input.

 

 

Now, let's outline Dennis's new questions with a bit of my input ....    G. :

 

1.)  Dennis points out that three 2 minute visits with each student is more valuable than one 6 minute visit.  If you agree, tell us why.

 

 

 

One long visit is not as effective as a number of short visits. 

 

Reason being:

Each visit gives you the instructor the opportunity to add another building block to that students casting. Addressing one new area of improvement on each visit, will allow the student to improve gradually over a shorter period of time. 

By achieving the most impact with the least amount of input and data to accomplish the correction. 

While allowing the student time to absorb the changes.

  

I remember my first encounter with Al Crise at one of his clinics, which I will never forget.  He approached me in the line up, gave me a nice critique of my cast and said do this one thing.  Work on that and I will be back in a little while. He did not give up on me, after a little while he came back reviewed how things were going, and added another building block.  After a while he stop coming around and just let me enjoy the moment making the cast that was the results of a few brief visits. What an impact! 

 

2.) Where would you like the casters to make their casts in relation to wind direction ?

    

     a. Wind from behind      b. Wind from in front   c.  Wind from the casting hand side  d. Wind from the line hand side.  E. Quartering with respect to the wind.

 

The answer for a clinic is D .

 

My view point on wind:

On a one on one setting with instructor and student.

The answer for a more advanced casters with the intent for extreme casting would be all of the above.

Being able to cast in all these wind directions is a must for all  good Fly Fisherman. 

 

3.)  Why might this be important to the students ?

 

With the wind from the line hand side you will be keeping the line and fly a safe distance away from the caster.

 

4.)  Why is this so important to the course director ?

 

A.)We do not want any of our students getting hurt while casting!

B.)We also do not want anyone else in the group casting and hitting members of their own group..

C.)We also do not want any of the surrounding public being hit by a students line.

D.)We Also want to keep an orderly pattern for all the casting.  That way we do not have people casting in all different directions causing mass confusion and the possibility of all of the above A,B & C happening.

 

All the best.

 

Gary Davison

 

Gulf Coast Spey

 

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From Lewis Hinks :

 

 

Now, let's outline Dennis's new questions with a bit of my input ....    G. :

 

1.)  Dennis points out that three 2 minute visits with each student is more valuable than one 6 minute visit.  If you agree, tell us why.

 

Short bites of information are easier to process. Give them a tip and let them work on that, then come back and work on a new piece of info. 6 minutes of constant advice can be confusing. Let them process and work on what you say.

 

2.) Where would you like the casters to make their casts in relation to wind direction ?

    

     a. Wind from behind      b. Wind from in front   c.  Wind from the casting hand side  d. Wind from the line hand side.  e. Quartering with respect to the wind.

 

Wind from line hand side

 

     

 

3.)  Why might this be important to the students ? 

 

 Safety, wind does not blow line into them when learning. Not worrying about that allows the student to concentrate on making the cast and not ducking line. Less frustration as well.

 

4.)  Why is this so important to the course director ? 

 

 Safety factor and success of the class and enjoyment by the students. Students will enjoy day more and learn more, not having to worry about being hit by the line.

 

Gordy