Haul techniques

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From Carl Zarelli :

Hi Gordy , I remember this haul as the " High Haul " . When I was practicing for my masters I found it on You Tube and used it quite a bit for off shoulder distance casting . I won't tell you how far I cast . But I do remember it took some practice to get it quite a ways out there .It is very effective but required some practice for the timing.  

 

The video was of Gunther  but I assume there are others out there that use this technique.

 

I use it still to this day . Especially when I am out in the salt in the Puget Sound fishing for Cutthroats or Silvers. It is quite effective off shoulder and when any wind is involved .

 

 I have found however  that I have lost the distance that I worked up to . It is quite effective for weighted flies such as  clousers and other weighted lies . 

 

Thanks for the group.

Carl Zarelli

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Carl...

I found the same thing when casting weighted flies and casting into a spanking wind.

Never thought of using it for off shoulder casting.

My distance and accuracy suffer each time I embrace something new, it seems.  Takes a while to catch up and improve. 

Reminds me of the scratch golfer who wants to improve..... he hires a pro at great expense.  The pro changes his swing style, and his score is worse for quite a while.  Joan Wulff noted that this happened to her many years ago when she was on the tournament circuit.

In 11 days I'll be 79.  No way can I achieve the distance I could when I was much younger.  Can I cast "better" ?  You bet.  Farther ?  No.

Gordy

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From Troy Miller :

The first time I heard anyone describe the wrist break at the end of the hauling motion was Lefty in a private lesson back in about 1998 or so.  Since then, I believe he included the concept in ?Lessons with Lefty?, the video aimed at teaching instructors to be better instructors.  Watched it once, loaned the DVD to one of my students, who loaned it on to another student, and ?  I?ve never seen it since.

Regards,
Troy Miller
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Troy..   Lefty has introduced so many things over the years that I can't remember if it was addrressed in some way on that tape.  I have it and will check it out.

Gordy

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From Jim Gill of the UK :

Many thanks Gordy. Just to let you know I still follow your forum avidly. I've posted some of the debates on our forum (GAIA - Game Angling Instructors Association) - acknowledging where they originate. It is generating similar debates and developing our forum.

 

Best wishes, Jim.

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Thanks, Jim ..... Always glad to hear from you.

 

G.

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COMMENTS :

 

At the Conclave this summer at Loveland, Co.,  Jim Valle, Flip Pallot and I gave a Workshop on salt water flycasting and fishing.  Immediately afterward, Flip had me cast with a 4 piece rod which he had turned 90 degrees with repect to the butt section so the guides were aligned at right angles to the rod shaft toward the line hand side.  Flip told me he had shown that to Steve Rajeff who was impressed by the finding that his cast required less effort.

 

We found that I could gain better distance with less effort with that arrangment.  This may have been due to less "line slap" against the rod blank.  At the time, I didn't consider any effect this might have had on the haul.

 

After going home and practicing with this "turned guides" rod, I also found that I was a bit more accurate casting to distance targets.  Why ?

 

Now that I think about it, this may have been due to the fact that as I hauled several degrees off the casting plane (rod plane) that with the first stripper guide turned in my haul direction I was probably adding less torque to the rod.  Less twist: better accuracy when straight line overhead casting.

 

Digging back into memory, I recall well known innovative rod maker, Joy Dunlop.   Joy had me cast with a rod of his design which had the stripper guides turned the same way.  I was impressed with the ease with which I could cast it despite the fact that it was a bit heavy because of the great number of guides used.   Perhaps he had had something like this in mind (?)

 

Gordy