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    Walter & Group....

    I'm taking off this morning .... back soon.    Gordy

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    Here is a message which I should have included in our fly line discussions :

    From Chase Jablonski -

    Hi Gordy,

    I think all of your comments on density compensated lines are quite correct, but no one has mentioned the advantages of a uniform sinking line or sinking tip.

    When they first gained popularity I jumped on the bandwagon and traded in my standard sink tip lines for density compensated ones, but found myself at a distinct disadvantage when fishing deep, fast runs with streamers for trout and steelhead, which was my primary use for those lines.

    With a density compensated line only the tip would have sunk by the time I needed to retrieve and the fly would shortly come to the surface where it was ineffective. With a standard sink tip the whole tip sinks uniformly and the majority of the retrieve can be at a similar depth. I could switch to a faster sink rate density compensated line, but I don't see the point, especially since the hinging effect gets worse as density increases. I also ran into the problem of catching snags on the bottom before the back half of the tip had sunk very far. Another thing worth keeping in mind is that currents are not always uniform across the casting area, either laterally or at varying depths, which may produce undesired results with a density compensated line.

    There may be other advantages, but this is just something I noticed in my own fishing situation. The slack line presented little hindrance since the fish would usually hit the fly hard and run.


    Cheers,

    Chase

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    Chase...   

    I found the same thing when fishing rivers.  The sink tips worked a lot better.  For me, fishing with full sink lines on the river, compensated or not is difficult for many reasons.

      Most of my experience with these lines has been in the Salt while fishing deep from a skiff where the problems of dealing with currents iare very different from those of the river.  When fishing striped bass deep from a skiff in the ocean, I couldn't get nearly the number of strikes with the sink tips ..... so in that circumstance, the density compensated full sink lines fished with a very short leader (no more than 3' to 4') excelled. 

    Gordy

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                                                        MAKING ZEBRA LINES

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    Ally Gowans tells us a clever way of marking these lines:

    Hi Gordy,

     

    The easy way to make a zebra line is simply to coil the line on a winder, fix the coils together with bag ties and place only half of the circumference of the coils into the dye bath. Anyone can make one but they havoc with eyesight!

     

    Best wishes,

    Ally Gowans

     

    See my web sites http://www.letsflyfish.com and http://www.flyfish-scotland.com

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    Comment:       Now why didn't I think of that !  (You can imagine how much time we spent with those laundry markers.)

    Comes to mind that the wider the circumference of the winder, the wider the coils and therefore the wider and more widely spaced the bands ..

    Gordy

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    On SA lines from Gary Davison:

    Gordy,
     
    I purchased my last two SA Expert Distant Lines Orange 120' lines through  Schmidt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
     
    As you say 7 wt,
     
    They have always provided me when needed.
     
    All the best.
        
    Gary Davison
    Gulf Coast Spey