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    Walter & Group....

    A couple of important messages on casting heavily weighted flies came in just after I had already sent the last one to you.

     

    From Peter Morse:

    Gordy we use a lot of big heavy flies for barramundi and a native 
    freshwater fish called Murray cod - these grow to over 100lbs and part 
    of their diet is ducks. Both these species favour living in snags and 
    for me water hauling is a critical part of casting big heavy flies 
    accurately into cover. It controls the line, gives you plenty of 
    tension - a couple of slaps on the water on your forward cast to get 
    your bearings and range, then shoot the fly into the cover (good snag 
    guards on the fly are essential). I also use this for fast sinking 
    shooting heads with big flies, especially when fishing from a boat and 
    there's a couple of you on board.

    Peter Morse

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    Peter.....

    Yes, indeed !   The water haul is one good way of doing it.   Thanks for remembering that.

    Gordy

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    From Mark Sedotti :

    Hi Gordy,
     
    On casting heavily weighted flies.
     
    You cast a heavily weighted fly the same as you cast ANY fly. With a tight loop, and using the exact same technique, marrying all the good technique with good timing that you can.
     
    The one thing a heavily weighted fly does, as does a very large fly is that it amplifys what you do wrong (or not well enough, technique wise) as well as what you do right or well. The more unruly the fly the more you have to be "spot on" with your technique or timing. That's all.
     
    For the most part, you have to practice casting a heavily weighted fly, or a very big fly to cast it well too. You have to "do it" to do it well.
     
    For a person who REALLY has trouble. open the loop, and perhaps that oval cast, suggested before, is good too. In reality that person has to practice his, or her basic casting technique. That will help them A LOT more.
     
    In the case of flies themselves. A heavily weighted fly can be designed to cast surprisingly well. My giant flies are VERY heavy, but cast well because they have just the rigfht amount of weight in them to counter the drag of their wind resistent materials whan cast. or you could say, just the right amount of wind resistent materials. I cal this a "weight balanced" fly. When you do thid with any fly it casts well.
     
    Thge problen with many "heavy" flies is that they don't have enough wind resistent materials in them to counteract the heavy weight. They're far off of being weight balanced, consequently they are VERY tough to cast. Sometimes you just can't add extra materials because it takes away from the function (like a haevily weighted sparse Clouser, or perhaps a crab) or the look of the fly. Then you have to depend on good casting technique to take you along. I mean, that's why you practice your casting. To cast the "marginal" flies better, or to cast them at all.
     
    regards,
    Mark

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    Mark....

    Yes.  You taught us the principle of WEIGHT BALANCED flies a while back.

    I've seen you cast the largest/heaviest flies imaginable without resorting to wide or open loops, water hauls or elliptical casting.  I can only imagine how much practice time you have put into this !

    Most of my heavy flies can't be balanced for the reasons that you mentioned .... even so, I can make my forward cast with a fairly tight loop and lots of loop speed with no problem.   As you say, this takes lots of practice.  Reason ? .... You must get your timing, especially with regard to the prior back cast perfect before you can make that cast.  No room for error !

    I included an attachment on your casting.

    Gordy

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