DRAG - SLIDE / TERMS-"definitions"

With reference to fixed architectural features in the background, the first three frames in that powerpoint series of Rick Hartman's cast show the rod having moved (a long way) to the right with minimal, if any, change in angle, while his line hand has moved to the left. This to me is "Slide".

I see "Drag" commencing about the fourth frame, when Rick's line hand begins to move to the right.

Is that how you see it?

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Tony ... Some use the terms DRAG and SLIDE to mean the same thing.

I look at SLIDE as movement of the fly line in the rod guides during the various parts of the fly cast in a direction opposite that of the fly rod motion. In our past discussions, we've talked about the term SLIDE LOADING which was originally (as far as I know) coined by Joan Wulff. You will remember that some objected to the word LOADING being added because they felt that no true loading of the rod happened during SLIDE. Others felt that as long as the rod was being progressively bend during this move that Joan's term should stand as she described it.

One could use the term SLIDE to include the "giving back line" during a double haul as well though that has not been the way it has been used in the past.

As I critique the Rick Hartman pictures from yesterday:

1. I agree that he is using SLIDE.

2. One can SLIDE and DRAG at the same time. I think he's doing that between frames 1 and 4. In other words, I think he is dragging from the start (slide 1.)

3. Looks to me as though there is just a little bit of rotation between frames 3 and 4... but not much. Almost pure translation of the rod until slide 5.

4. Effective rotation starts at slide 5.

5. Rod/hand motion is so fast between slides 5. and 7. that it is difficult to see any detail, though one can see the deep bend in the butt section of the rod on slide 6. By this time, he is rotating and translating at the same time.

6. Due to blurring, I can't tell when his stop actually occurs nor can I see the start of loop formation at all.

7. In slides 8 and 9 it appears that he is doing more than FOLLOWTHROUGH... looks like a THRUST in the direction of the cast.

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TERMS - "DEFINITIONS"

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Here is another way of looking at it from Gary Davison:

Gordy,

I have a hard time compartmentalizing the Casting Stroke into what should be and what should not be considered parts of the final product. This is not an easy task.

In my opinion and I stress opinion because there are many, I see the casting stroke as the following:

The movement of the hand though out an entire casting sequence which includes translation, and rotation with extended reach.

Any hand movement with in the casting stroke should be considered part of it. Such as Creep, Drift, and Follow Through.

I include Creep because it is part of the hand movement over the entire casting sequence for that casting stroke.

I consider Drag as the line hand riding with the rod hand through portions of the casting stroke, to maintain good hand position for the Haul.

I consider Drift and Follow Through as extended reach hand movements after rotation in the casting stroke.

All the best

Gary Davison

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