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1. Define roll cast.
A roll cast is a casting technique where
there is no real backcast, rather a D loop, with a normal forward
cast
2. Must a roll cast
be made with a "dead/static" line ?
Yes, the rod is loaded because of the tension of
the line in the water combined with your casting stroke.
3. Does the roll cast have a back cast
?
No really, but you do lift
the line to reposition it in a D loop behind you
4.
Does a roll cast roll out on the water ?
Not necessarily. You can "roll" the line above the
water's surface (especially when casting to spooky fish)
5. Is the "distance" roll really a roll cast
?
Yes, done with a pause. No,
if you do a switch cast
6. Are the
delivery moves of spey casts roll casts ?
They are similar but more switch cast moves than
roll cast moves
Bob
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From Al
Crise:
1. Define roll cast.
A forward cast without a back cast. Waiting
until the leader has stopped moving “Dead line” before the forward
cast is started.
2. Must a roll cast be made with a
"dead/static" line ?
It is a ‘roll
cast’ if the line is ‘dead’. A forward spey if it is moving or
dynamic D loop.
3. Does the roll cast have a back cast
?
It
can have a ‘flip back’ of slack line. The line is not aerialized in
a loop behind the caster.
4. Does a roll cast roll out on the
water ?
The
forward cast loop will lift the line from the water in a circle or
elliptical loop. If the loop is aimed high it will lift the line
free of the surface looking like a forward overhead cast. A loop
that is aimed lower will lift and then reset the line to the surface
in a rolling loop. The more distance to the leader, the closer to
the surface the loop will travel.
5. Is the "distance" roll really a
roll cast ?
Distance is not the
change in the roll cast. Release angle and amount of added speed to
keep the loop aloft is. This is to reduce the hold of the surface
tension of the water by getting more line into the aerialized line.
Line speed can be added by hauling.
6. Are the delivery moves of spey
casts roll casts ? The
same
Yes there are many
similarities. Other that the anchor on a spey cast is semi- static,
& the D loop is dynamic. The application of speed is the same.
In direction and Speed up and Stop of the rod tip to form a good
loop. More line behind and a 180 degrees from the target passing
over the leader are both needed to make a good cast.
Ol
Al
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From Ally Gowans:
1. Define roll cast.
Basic elliptical
cast.
2. Must a roll cast
be made with a "dead/static" line? No
3. Does the roll cast
have a back cast? No
4. Does a roll cast roll
out on the water? Traditionally – yes; Modern -
no
5. Is the "distance"
roll really a roll cast? What is a distance roll cast? In
Scotland this would be a
dynamic roll cast with a double
haul.
6. Are the delivery
moves of spey casts roll casts? – Yes – two
methods.
Best
wishes,
Ally
Gowans
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COMMENTS:
1.) Interesting that no two definitions were the
same. (Gives you an idea of what we are up against with our
Glossary committee deliberations.)
- Only one included an anchor (Loading from the
line/leader "stick")
- Some used the concept of "no back cast" as
part of the definition.
- Some placed the roll cast in the family of
elliptical casts.
- Some (one I printed out) included the "dead"
or "static" line as part of the definition.
2.) The answers were almost equally divided as
to whether a roll cast had to be made with a static or a moving
line.
Some felt that if there was no stop and pause before
starting the forward move, that it wasn't a roll cast but either a
Spey cast or a "switch cast".
(As an aside, I'll note that while this is open to
discussion and interpretation, that it has been decided that on an
FFF exam, the roll cast tasks must be done with the stop and pause
before making the forward move.)
3.) There was almost equal division on whether
or not the roll cast included a "back cast". One qualified by
using the term, "overhead back cast". This indicated to me
that some considered the placement of the static D-loop as a form of
"back cast".
4.) Most opined that a roll cast could be done
"on the water" or "in the air".
5,) Differences of opinion on the DISTANCE ROLL
CAST represented lack of consensus on just what this is. (Many
ways of accomplishing distance when roll casting.
)
6.) Most agreed that the delivery moves of the
roll cast and the Spey cast were the same ..... however, that wasn't
the way the question was asked. (6.)
Are the delivery moves of Spey casts roll
casts.)
I was the only one who seemed to look at it
differently. I look at the DELIVERY MOVE of a roll
cast and a Spey cast as a simple forward cast.
Gordy |