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    Walter & Group....

    On teaching youngsters, by Troy Miller:

    The best thing I can advise when teaching youngsters (difficult or not) is to get on their level – in every way.  Speak using words that they can easily understand (yes, I can teach casting without using the word “momentum”…J).  Paint vivid pictures that they can see.  Use rod and flyline laying on the grass.  Use a markerboard or easel with flipchart.  They love cartoons and really do learn from them. 

     

    Most importantly, if you are able, get down on your knees so you are PHYSICALLY on their level.  They can see you better when they’re at the same level, you can “go for a ride” with them, or they can with you.  Most importantly, you’re considerably less intimidating to them when you’re not a giant.  Make some silly, goofy casts.  Even ones that are horrible, and explain that everyone makes bad casts sometimes.  Also explain that the line won’t do anything that the rod doesn’t tell it to.  The line gets all of its instructions from the rod, and the rod gets its instructions from you.  Show them continuous tension casting and let them try to swing the line in circles for at least 15 seconds without hitting the ground.  Then 30 seconds.  Then a minute.  The show how stopping the rod makes loops.  Then teach them to connect the dots to steer the cast.  Do everything you can to keep it fun. 

     

    Honestly, I’m trying to remember a kid student I’ve had that was “tough”.  Not all of them learn at the same pace, but if you try to remember what it was like to be a kid, it’s pretty easy to connect with them.

     

    Regards,
    Troy Miller

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    In past years I have been amazed at how Al Crise bonds with kids of all ages and gets results.  These kids always have a good time learning when he's at the helm.  I think one of his secrets that he doesn't talk about is his funny hat !  Sometimes I've heard him use some Texas country jargon that I, frankly, don't understand.....BUT THE KIDS DO !  Here are some tips from him.  Long but worth reading......  G. :-

    Teaching Kids to Fly Cast.

       Tips from Al Crise.

     

       Set up before you leave home.

          My “3-Rs” Rods, Reels, Ready

          Outline of class; This is more for the help, I call Coaches,  Before the class I meet with my coaches go over the outline to ensure that we are all using the same terms and that they understand the cast that we will be doing. Keep it Simple Sam.

      At the area to give the lesson I walk down the area to do the casting on. Holes, backcast area, walk through paths, Trees, power lines, anything that might cause trouble. I put up my signs, (Caution Back Cast Area) at points that might allow some outsider to walk in. Most important is the wind and its directions.

      I have a teaching box 4’X3’X3’ aluminum trunk that carries my gear, signs, ropes, barrier tapes, water bottles, first aid kit. Note paper on clip boards. Most important is my Safety Gear “Billed Hats and Safety Glasses” and sun glasses. I do not allow ANY one on my casting Venue without a hat and eye protection. Coaches too.

    I will run out a rope for the ‘base line’. I use a bright colored 100 foot rope for the starting/standing line. I use hula-hoops for targets. 30 inch bright colored. Each student has one in front of their casting station.  At 30 feet.  Why? They are Self-rewarding when they are able to put the yarn fly in the ring they will often say "I DID IT" Did what? They, all by themselves, made a cast. Now I have a Fly Casting venue; a Starting line and targets. This makes staging the students so much easier. I often set a second set of targets at 50 feet for adults or advanced student/kids

      My range of rods and reels are from 7ft to 9 ft most often a 8-1/2 for kids. Little kids get the 7 ft. My rods are in 5 and 6 weight. I do have a couple 8 wts for the power casters. (more on that latter)

     My use of a smaller or shorter rod for kids can be looked at it this way; the long rods are harder to stop, and that is what we have to teach first. Two STOPS.

    My 6 wt rods are the smaller rods. They load faster and easier for the smaller casters.

      My fly lines have 3 black marks at 30 ft. This is one of the easiest ways of getting the line out of the rod and a loop forming. I have a single wider mark at 50 ft. 7-1/2 foot leaders, Red Yarn flys.

     

    Start of class

    With kids you have to get a rod in their hands; Remember this; if the rod is in their hands they can not hear. Holding it makes them part of the class. So try not to give important instructions while they are waving the rods around.

     

     

     

     

     

    Start of Class

    I start with the Reels on the rods but the line wound up to just 1 foot of leader out of the reel. Yarn Fly tied on the end.

    Each student will have a rod or if you have a large group or boy scouts you can put partners together one will cast first then the other trading back and forth.

    Talk a very little about the rod. Butt, reelseat, grip and striper guide. Show how to hold. Stop talking too much talking at this time is not good. Get them swinging the rod. Give them some time to just feel what that long rod feels like. Make some casting moves just give them 5 minutes.

    I have them thread up the rods with the line folding back 6 inches of fly line. Ensure that they skip the hook holder. Show that they can set the butt on the grass or a hat and WALK way from the butt to reach the tip of the rod as they run the line loop up. Pull out 8-9 ft of line. Hold the line/leader knot in the line hand for now. Boy they feel like this is getting some place now….

     

    Lay the rods on the ground. Remember that they can not hear with the rod in hand.

      Show the movement of the cast. Pantomime the cast. Make sure the start is down. The hand moves up to the ear. Try: Answer the phone; Pick up. Hello, It’s is for you”. As they move forward, to hang up. Back to Start. Repeat about 3 or 4 times. Check that elbow and see if it is coming up.

     

    Pick up the rods. Hold the line/leader knot, now they are swing the rods. Watch for the start at the ground with the tip. Stop going up Stop going forward. Stop, Stop not Flop, Flop

     

    Now it is time to turn them loose, pull off about 20 ft of line. This should put the three dots on the rod some place. Enough for now, with the dots just off the reel.

     

    This is the learning by extremes Too hard too soft, too fast too slow. Give them time to try this.  Check the Pause and starts. Is the hand coming up. GIVE lots of praise.

     This is where problems start showing up. My hardest to stop is the starting point. Rod tip at the ground this is a FLY CAST. Start a Fly Cast here. START. START should ring in to drop the tip to the ground about the 3 time you say Start.

      The next is the one that just whips the line with out the pause. Impress the group that the pause is needed because we are casting a 30 foot weight not a bobber. You will get on that just whips and whips the rod. until they have knots on knots. After the third time I have them try to take the knot out themselves. Sitting on the ground not casting is a lesson that get in a hard head.

       For the pause I use the following Chant.

    START; ONE/ “Mississippi”/ TWO / REST/ Back to START.

    The numbers 1 and 2 are STOPS “Mississippi” is the Pause for 30 ft of line to get behind you before you move to stop two.

     

    REST time. Take a break, rods down.

     Talk about Something: I gather a big group into a smaller area.

     Getting the line out of the rod easy way; Sideways loops in front of you.

     The leader and tippets.

     The way to put the rod together.

       They will hear everything you say if you say it wrong they will remember that first. These kids are in school and quizzing is normal for them. ASK questions, wait for hands up to answer. They are sponges for information. They will sometimes ask questions you have to be ready for. No Bad questions no dumb questions all have to be answered or fenced to a latter time but do not forget it.

     This should be 5 to 10 minutes. Back to the Rods.

    YOU will be surprise at how much better they are doing this time.

     This time you are looking for them to do it right. Enforce the right with praise.

     

     Now is the time to work with each student one on one. This is special time to bond with the student. Praise, praise and more ‘att-a-boys’

      Do not let them do it wrong require the correct but do it with suggestions. Such as; Try this, or Have you tried this? Lead them to self-discovery.

     Problem kids.

     Here is one student that is having troubles.

       Just does not care. DAD sent me. I would rather play my Game Boy.

            “Can you move that yarn fly to that ring? It takes a talented thumb.”

           Show how their thumb is the key to making it cast.

       Every one is so much better than me.

             Well let me show you what you have to do to get better than they are.

              Show the “tricks” to make the cast a long stroke or longer pause. Not

              the power.

       I know how. I have a spinning rod at home.

             Repeat the ‘long weight thing’ that you now have to cast. Slowly wait       for the line to get way back.

       That is not how uncle Bob showed me.

      Did he have one of the old fiberglass rods that required some different ways of casting. These new Graphite rods need a younger mind to cast.

       Can I cast a bigger rod or a smaller this one is not working?

     Lets see if I can help you make this one work. Show me what you are doing. Have you tried to move your elbow up? That might help. Some times a shorter rods do work.

     Longer heavier rod for the HE-man caster will save a rod and makes them feel better the casting.

     

    You will have to try new words. New ways and compare to what they know. They do not know what a buggy whip is, or a Albright knot until you teach them.

     Keep them busy but REST time is needed every 20-30 minutes for 5 to 10.

    Cast, talk, cast, talk, cast Recap what you taught in just high lights.

    Quiz and then rewards. I use hard candy like life savers individually wrapped. But the best reward is landing the fly in the hoop at 50 ft or Catching a fish.

     One thing I do at every class is to teach ‘fighting and landing’ a fish. I have the fear of a young boy running up the beach dragging his catch behind him saying “Mr. Crise taught me to cast” I missed the important part ‘Catching’

     Show them how to strip and how high to hold the rod tip. I use a water bottle tied to the leader set on the ground 40 ft away. This works will for how hard is it if the rod is to high or breaking it off if too low. How to net or lip a fish. Unhook and release the fish unharmed and WHY.

     

     Just keep smiling and having FUN this is why we do it.

     

      

     

       

    Allen R. Crise
    FFF-Master Casting Instructor
    FFF-SOC VP Education http://forums.southerncouncilfff.org/
    Hawk Ridge Flycasting School
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